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DHS: US Vistors May Have To Hand Over Social Media Passwords
NBC News ^ | Feb 8 2017, 7:51 et | by Alexander Smith

Posted on 02/08/2017 1:37:09 PM PST by drewh

People who want to visit the United States could be asked to hand over their social-media passwords to officials as part of enhanced security checks, the country's top domestic security chief said.

Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly told Congress the measure was one of several being considered to vet refugees and visa applicants from seven Muslim-majority countries.

"We want to get on their social media, with passwords: What do you do, what do you say?" he told the House Homeland Security Committee. "If they don't want to cooperate then you don't come in."

His comments came the same day judges heard arguments over President Donald Trump's executive order temporarily barring entry to most refugees and travelers from Syria, Iraq, Iran, Somalia, Sudan, Libya and Yemen.

Kelly, a Trump appointee, stressed that asking for people's passwords was just one of "the things that we're thinking about" and that none of the suggestions were concrete.

Under the existing vetting process, according to Kelly, officials "don't have a lot to work with," relying on the applicant's documentation and asking them questions about their background.

He said this was even more problematic when dealing with so-called "failed states" such as Syria or Somalia, where infrastructure and record-keeping has been degraded by conflict.

As well as asking people for their passwords, Kelly said he was looking at trying to obtain people's financial records.

"We can follow the money, so to speak. How are you living, who's sending you money?" he said. "It applies under certain circumstances, to individuals who may be involved in on the payroll of terrorist organizations."

Obtaining visitors' passwords was considered by top officials at the Department of Homeland Security under the Obama administration, but the policy was never adopted, according to an internal department memo obtained by MSNBC in 2015.

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1 posted on 02/08/2017 1:37:09 PM PST by drewh
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To: drewh

I wouldn’t want American travelers to have to give up passwords to go to other countries.


2 posted on 02/08/2017 1:39:09 PM PST by BipolarBob (I thought money was burning a hole in my pocket but it was just my Samsung Note 7.)
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To: drewh

What if you don’t do social media?

Like me.


3 posted on 02/08/2017 1:39:24 PM PST by cyclotic (Republicans Are without excuse. Flood the Resolute Desk with sane legislation.)
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To: drewh

I’m not sure I like this. I wouldn’t like it if another foreign country did this to American citizens.


4 posted on 02/08/2017 1:39:45 PM PST by kosciusko51
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To: cyclotic
Kelly also suggests looking at financial records to see if an individual is on the payroll of terrorism orgs. “Nothing concrete” decided yet.
5 posted on 02/08/2017 1:42:25 PM PST by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: Rewrite all schoolbooks K-12!)
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To: drewh

No good. “We’ll need your Twitter and Facebook passwords.” “I don’t do Twitter or Facebook.” Done.


6 posted on 02/08/2017 1:43:00 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: BipolarBob

If the United States implements such a policy, there is no doubt that other states will do the exact same thing to American citizens.


7 posted on 02/08/2017 1:44:43 PM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: The Westerner

“Kelly also suggests looking at financial records to see if an individual is on the payroll of terrorism orgs.”

I’m sure it will be right there on a Bank of Tehran bank statement, “Credit of $1,000,000.00 from ISIS with the notation ‘Terrorist Attack in the United States’”


8 posted on 02/08/2017 1:48:24 PM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: Timpanagos1

Can’t blame them. There goes Ireland. Oh well.


9 posted on 02/08/2017 1:48:39 PM PST by BipolarBob (I thought money was burning a hole in my pocket but it was just my Samsung Note 7.)
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To: cyclotic
I'm sure FR is considered "social media", so you'd have to give up your PW.

No doubt in my mind other countries will reciprocate.

10 posted on 02/08/2017 1:50:15 PM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: BipolarBob

This has a positive upside.

It will be DING on the revenue generating capacity at FakeBook and Twiddle.


11 posted on 02/08/2017 1:52:26 PM PST by ptsal
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To: drewh

Ummmmm a true terrorist will then just have a fake, second social media site about flowers and how dogs are superior to cats.


12 posted on 02/08/2017 1:54:38 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: drewh

Idiotic because it is unenforceable.


13 posted on 02/08/2017 1:55:02 PM PST by gdani
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To: drewh

I don’t have a Facebook or anything like that so what are they going to do? Force me to make one?


14 posted on 02/08/2017 1:57:14 PM PST by MeganC (BOYCOTT Nancy Pelosi's Auberge de Soleil!!! SHUT IT DOWN!!!)
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To: Night Hides Not
One doesn't need the password to view posts here.

I don't do social media either (where one ID's oneself), but I suppose those places (like Facebook) allow one to hide their postings from others, so password access would be needed to see the entirety of one's posting history.

I agree with others that this will boomerang back to Americans. It's not a good idea.

-PJ

15 posted on 02/08/2017 1:58:57 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: BipolarBob

The jihadi terrorist woman who shot up San Bernadino had jihad crap all over her facebook. We carefully didn’t look. The Tsarvaev brothers had islamicrap on their pages too. They have no right to come here.


16 posted on 02/08/2017 2:04:50 PM PST by DesertRhino (.)
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To: Timpanagos1

“I’m sure it will be right there on a Bank of Tehran bank statement, “Credit of $1,000,000.00 from ISIS with the notation ‘Terrorist Attack in the United States’””

Childish analysis. Suspicious financial dealings pointing to terrorism leave many footprints.


17 posted on 02/08/2017 2:07:46 PM PST by DesertRhino (.)
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To: DesertRhino

I was just going to post about the San Bernadino couple. I’m glad I’m not the only one that remembers. If their social media had been vetted, all of those souls would still be alive. Those here that are worried about other countries vetting us are missing the point. They are much safer staying home than entering a country that does not care who visits.


18 posted on 02/08/2017 2:23:53 PM PST by jean michael
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To: drewh

They do not have the right to ask that. Fascism.


19 posted on 02/08/2017 2:24:17 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: kosciusko51

“I wouldn’t like it if another foreign country did this to American citizens.”

There is a simple answer. You don’t go to that country.

If/when Kelly gets this approved for visitors from certain countries, many will stop coming here. Particuliarily those who have used the social media sites to plan acts of terrorism.


20 posted on 02/08/2017 2:34:29 PM PST by Grampa Dave (When Trump is through destroying the press, Trump will MPGA (Make the Press Great Again)!!!)
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