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On Trial: Why Trump’s Immigration Ban Will Win Over Seattle Judge’s Nationwide Order
Law Newz ^ | 2/2/2017 | Robert Barns

Posted on 02/04/2017 12:32:17 AM PST by stocksthatgoup

Opening Statement On Friday, a Boston federal judge issued a 21 page decision debunking the arguments against Trump’s Executive Order suspending migration from certain countries pending further review. Later that same day, a Seattle federal judge who has been making the news lately (and not usually for the most flattering of reasons), declared his oral intention to sign an order limiting some aspects of the executive order. In the courtroom, whose position is likely to ultimately win?

Just a quick review of the two written orders can tell you which one is likely to win. The Boston judge cited a wide range of precedents for his decision in his detailed written order. The Seattle judge issued a short order devoid of almost any reference to any precedent, which is the “evidence” for lawyers on the law. Add in comments made by the Seattle judge verbally, and if any aspect of that is correct, the Seattle judge’s opinion will lose, and Trump’s position will win. (More)

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: courts; immigration; laws; trump
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.............. Closing Argument

Second-guessing Trump’s decision is for elections, not judges. The Supreme Court long ago rejected such second-guessing as impermissible. The Boston’s judge’s thoughtful and deliberate decision follows the precedents, as the law compels. The Seattle judge’s decision tries to substitute for the legislative branches, which the law condemns. In the ultimate outcome of these decisions, memories of Super Bowls past will prove prescient: Like the Patriots, Boston will best Seattle once again

1 posted on 02/04/2017 12:32:17 AM PST by stocksthatgoup
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To: stocksthatgoup

Just watch how many judges start knocking down President Trumps EO’s. The same judges who didn’t make a peep about all of Obama’s unconstitutional shenanigans.


2 posted on 02/04/2017 1:02:19 AM PST by Bullish (May as well just rename Hollywood---> Hypocrite city)
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To: stocksthatgoup

Immigration
is a matter of military national security. Since when civilian judges could object to a President’s drone strike in foreign territories or blocking non citizens from
entering?

What the heck is going on?

I would 1. declare a military emergency to man international airport entries and borders under military rules
2. Prosecute those judges instigating a virtual military coup through agitation and civil war in rulings seeking to undermine this authority


3 posted on 02/04/2017 1:03:33 AM PST by lavaroise (s)
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To: stocksthatgoup

Certainly we want to win, (and should) but how long will this take. Anyone have any idea?

BTW one piddly federal judge stoppiung a president who is clearly following the law is not a “check and balance” it is judicial supremacy.


4 posted on 02/04/2017 1:24:22 AM PST by Cubs Fan (Did we riot when they won? No, because we are way better human beings than they are.)
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To: lavaroise

http://cis.org/sites/cis.org/files/articles/2009/back209.pdf


5 posted on 02/04/2017 1:24:27 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (There will come a time when those screaming Fascists are in fact the actual Facists. W Churchill)
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To: Bullish
Just watch how many judges start knocking down President Trumps EO’s. The same judges who didn’t make a peep about all of Obama’s unconstitutional shenanigans.

No doubt. Liberals will lie, cheat, steal and riot to get whatever they want. As far as they are concerned ethical and legal boundaries don't exist.

6 posted on 02/04/2017 1:27:26 AM PST by Cubs Fan (Did we riot when they won? No, because we are way better human beings than they are.)
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To: Bullish
"Just watch how many judges start knocking down President Trumps EO’s. The same judges who didn’t make a peep about all of Obama’s unconstitutional shenanigans."

Of course I can only remember a couple of occasions where in eight years Republicans or those supposedly opposed to Obama took action to oppose his executive orders n court. Even when out of power, the progressives play to win.

7 posted on 02/04/2017 1:31:02 AM PST by buckalfa (I am deplorable.)
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To: stocksthatgoup

Trump’s team need only cite the Constitution as controlling authority.


8 posted on 02/04/2017 1:32:55 AM PST by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: stocksthatgoup

How is it that this District Court Judge has jurisdiction over the entire nation?


9 posted on 02/04/2017 1:43:46 AM PST by iontheball
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To: buckalfa

This govt truly is a swamp and it has to be drained or else. It cannot continue this way.


10 posted on 02/04/2017 1:48:21 AM PST by Bullish (May as well just rename Hollywood---> Hypocrite city)
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To: stocksthatgoup

I’m getting a bit confused here. What argument are they bringing that limits the discretionary power the President has under 8 USC 1182(f)? I have NOT seen the reasoning and can not understand how any judge could read it in a way that would allow them to limit or question the President’s decision. (I know they ignore it ...)

Does anyone know what the arguments are?


11 posted on 02/04/2017 1:50:43 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: lavaroise

"What the heck is going on?"

Lawlessness...Good post.

Let's say if the state of Washington, the state AG, and some pedo judge wanted to create a foothold situation for a rogue state such as NK or Iran to invade the U.S., is Trump supposed to wait for a farging appeal?

"I would 1. declare a military emergency to man international airport entries and borders under military rules

2. Prosecute those judges instigating a virtual military coup through agitation and civil war in rulings seeking to undermine this authority"

I like the way you think...Try the judge for treason and hang him from the Space Needle. Then see if any other judge wants to get involved in more lawless faggotry.

12 posted on 02/04/2017 2:02:14 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America. Treat them accordingly.)
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"This govt truly is a swamp and it has to be drained or else. It cannot continue this way."

I hear you. Given that the apparatus of government has been in the hands of the progressives and globalists for almost thirty years, I do not think that even Trump realized the difficulty that his task at hand would face. The only solution is to abolish agencies.

13 posted on 02/04/2017 2:05:32 AM PST by buckalfa (I am deplorable.)
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To: An.American.Expatriate

Progressives don’t need no stinking arguments. It’s all feelings, man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqomZQMZQCQ


14 posted on 02/04/2017 2:10:50 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Cubs Fan

This judge is irrational-—and unacceptable in our “Justice” system. He should be forced off the bench because he defies “right reason” and advocates lying and the killing of other groups by embracing evil, irrational ideologies that are incompatible with our Constitution..


15 posted on 02/04/2017 2:12:20 AM PST by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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To: NTHockey

Thanks for that informative post. If I had wanted spam answers I would have asked in facebook.


16 posted on 02/04/2017 2:55:55 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: stocksthatgoup

This will now go to a federal Appellate Court, then to the Supreme Court (4-4). Do I have this right?


17 posted on 02/04/2017 3:38:09 AM PST by Makana (Everything regresses to the Mean- Anonymous)
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To: lavaroise
"Immigration is a matter of (military) national security."

Exactly. We seem to be in the middle of an attempted coup d'état. The actors are the dems, the "main stream media", the judiciary, and many elements of the federal bureaucracy. Very interesting times we live in.

18 posted on 02/04/2017 4:12:23 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (My North America stops at the Rio Grande)
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To: lavaroise

Exactly! Bring our boys home to protect the Homeland. I sound like Ron Paul.


19 posted on 02/04/2017 5:50:34 AM PST by angcat (THANK YOU LORD FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP!)
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To: stocksthatgoup

Any Federal Judge that orders a halt to an EO should be dragged in front of congress and grilled the next day. Their life should be made hell. There should be a fast track to the SCOTUS to overturn the order. Then impeach the judge. Fihgt back damn it!


20 posted on 02/04/2017 5:56:38 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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