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'Exactly right': Jindal backs Trump over travel ban
Washington Examiner ^ | 1/29/17 | Al Weaver

Posted on 01/29/2017 6:18:55 PM PST by markomalley

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To: Godebert

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Are you really an idiot?

Minor made no finding other than that she had to be a citizen if her parents were.

No part of the case was about what was natural born.
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81 posted on 01/31/2017 8:32:21 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: mumblypeg; Godebert

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Godebert has gone total troll.
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82 posted on 01/31/2017 8:34:01 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; mumblypeg
The US Supreme Court clearly defined “natural-born citizen” by two independent remarks:

1. “…all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also.” First, the Court states that these persons are “citizens”. But then it makes a second statement about this class –

2. “These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.” This class of citizens are part of a class defined as “natural-born citizens”. They are citizens, natural-born. This distinguishes them from all other citizens. If this were not the case, it would have been sufficient for the Court to stop at the first statement concerning their citizenship.

But the Court didn’t stop there. Because the Court was avoiding the 14th Amendment, the Court went to the second step and defined this class to be different from all other citizens. This class did not require the 14th Amendment to be US citizens.

Whether persons born in the US to non-citizen parents were “citizens” was not a question before the Minor Court because Mrs. Minor was natural-born, whereas Wong Kim Ark was not. The determination of his citizenship required the 14th Amendment, whereas Mrs. Minor’s did not.

It was held that Mrs. Minor was a US citizen – as the syllabus states in point 2 – because she was born in the US to parents who were citizens. This was the independent ground that springs forth precedent. (See Ogilvie Et Al., Minors v. United States, 519 U.S. 79 at 84 (1996)).

Checkmate.

83 posted on 02/01/2017 3:23:44 AM PST by Godebert (CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
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To: Godebert; mumblypeg

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You are still dishonestly trying to make irrelevant dicta a SCOTUS ruling.

In short, you are a common liar.
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84 posted on 02/01/2017 9:08:28 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

You’ve been pushing your Obot agenda here for years. Do you actually think anyone besides your fellow travelers agrees with you? Go away.


85 posted on 02/03/2017 4:56:11 AM PST by Godebert (CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
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To: Godebert

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You’re nothing but an annoying troll.

FR was wonderful before you and our foul odor were flushed in here.

Take your private dis-constitution and blow.
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86 posted on 02/03/2017 10:53:02 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Godebert

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You’re nothing but an annoying troll.

FR was wonderful before you and your foul odor were flushed in here.

Take your private dis-constitution and blow.
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87 posted on 02/03/2017 10:54:40 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

You’re defense of Obama sucks. He should ask for a refund.


88 posted on 02/03/2017 1:51:14 PM PST by Godebert (CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
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To: Godebert

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You are Obama.


89 posted on 02/03/2017 2:49:54 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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