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1 posted on 01/28/2017 9:31:12 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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Chris Matthews tells pro-life activist that refusing to punish the woman who has an abortion is ‘treating her like a child.’

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2 posted on 01/28/2017 9:32:37 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (FReepmail or ping me to be put on my ping list for criticism of liberal media)
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Actually, unless the woman self aborts, one would go after the person or persons who performed the abortion.


3 posted on 01/28/2017 9:33:08 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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Unquestionably, there should be murder charges for the doctors who perform abortions, the nurses that assist in the abortions and the women who have abortions.

Life begins at the exact moment of conception and any type of abortion is murder.


4 posted on 01/28/2017 9:35:13 AM PST by Timpanagos1
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Chrissy doesn’t know that it isn’t defined as murder under the law and you don’t make criminal laws retroactive.


5 posted on 01/28/2017 9:35:27 AM PST by Crucial
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Chrissy lost the narrative long ago when he utter something about “chill up my leg or something.”

He needs to retire before he gets run out.


6 posted on 01/28/2017 9:35:48 AM PST by Gaffer
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Both the woman and the doctor are responsible. If you hire someone to murder another you will be charged.


10 posted on 01/28/2017 9:39:58 AM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialists is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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Why aren’t these antiametican libtards pushing for the same “even after the baby is delivered live” standard for abortion around the world?

America is one of the few nations with this extremist position.


11 posted on 01/28/2017 9:42:24 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The COM-Left is saddened by the death of the Communist dictator Fidel Castro. No surprise there.)
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If a person causes a car wreck that kills the mother and the unborn child, that person is charged twice.


13 posted on 01/28/2017 9:44:21 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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Hey Cissy Matthews, how about charges for parents, boyfriends, and pp workers who coerce young girls to get abortions they don’t actually want?


14 posted on 01/28/2017 9:44:28 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The COM-Left is saddened by the death of the Communist dictator Fidel Castro. No surprise there.)
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I’ve long believed that any woman who can casually murder her own children isn’t fit to be a parent. Chris actually has a point.


15 posted on 01/28/2017 9:45:25 AM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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Here’s one instance in which I agree with Matthews.


16 posted on 01/28/2017 9:47:48 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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28 posted on 01/28/2017 9:54:26 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Prosecute the win. Run up the score.)
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The pro-life movement is one that believes a baby is a human being from the moment of conception. Thus, the pro-life movement believes that the abortion of an unborn child (except to save the life of the mother) is morally wrong. The pro-life position is that killing the child months before he or she is born is just as wrong as killing a child months after he or she is born. Pro-life groups have advocated legal restrictions on abortion as well as a Constitutional amendment to overturn Roe v. Wade, so that almost all abortions could be made illegal.

Earlier last year, a question on whether, if abortions (except to save the life of the mother) were outlawed, mothers should be punished if they have abortions was answered by Donald Trump, "There has to be some form of punishment."

But Trump's answer generated a number of articles by people who claimed to be pro-life advocates and state that a baby is a human person from the moment of conception. However, the articles strongly denounced the view that "There has to be some form of punishment" and advocating the historical view that women have not been charged or punished under the law for aborting their own children.

4 Reasons Donald Trump’s Abortion Answer Was A Betrayal Of Pro-Lifers by Mollie Hemingway
Punishing Women for Abortion — Trump Contradicts Centuries of Legal Experience by Clarke Forsythe
When Abortion Was Illegal, Women Were Not Jailed for Having Abortions. Here’s Why by Clarke Forsythe
No Pro-Life American Advocates Punishment for Abortion by Bethany Goodman
3 Reasons Trump Was Wrong On Punishing Women For Abortion by Ben Shapiro

Many of the articles contained vicious attacks and insults against Donald Trump and his campaign for the Presidency. It should also be noted that these attacks on Trump were not because of his anti-abortion position that allows abortions in cases of rape and incest.

Setting aside the questions of extenuating circumstances and what kind of punishment might be considered, some of these articles pushed the claim that a mother who deliberately has an abortion is neither the perpetrator, nor an accomplice, nor a conspirator in the murder of the child in her womb, but rather a victim herself. This would seem to take the perversion, "victimless crime," and pervert it further into a "crimeless victim" (the aborted child).

If the pro-life movement, as exemplified in these linked articles, does not want such a gaping hole in its argument opposing abortion (which Chris Matthews now seems to be exploiting), it needs to consider the role of justice in its pro-life position, not only for the politicians, judges, doctors, and businessmen who have participated in the abortion industry, but also the mother who participates in the abortion. Otherwise such a pro-life position advocated in the linked articles is reduced from that of an abortion choice being murder to a morally equivalent one of choosing the wrong color of socks to put on.

29 posted on 01/28/2017 9:56:44 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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If you are going to go after the mother for getting an abortion then you should also go after the father as an accessory after the fact.


30 posted on 01/28/2017 9:57:41 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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I would go after the abortionists first. They use lies and strong-arm tactics to pressure women into having abortions. They send their sales staff into high schools to lie to young girls and try to convince them that people who talk about the baby just want to suppress their rights. The propaganda surrounding abortion is complex and sophisticated.

Until we break through that propaganda and educate young women, attempts to control abortion through punitive legal measures will most likely fail. We have to educate. We have to counter the lies that somehow, abortion is the only “right” that women have or need.


33 posted on 01/28/2017 10:03:28 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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The usual muddying of the waters. There’s the matter of Roe vs Wade being overturned, which only means that abortion laws would be determined state by state. The second matter is whether abortion is murder or not. (Note that he very quickly goes from hounding her over whether it’s murder to hounding her as if she said that it was.) Whether it is murder or not would be a matter for each state.


35 posted on 01/28/2017 10:04:48 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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let’s just forget Chrissy


38 posted on 01/28/2017 10:06:47 AM PST by vmpolesov
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And this pathetic jackass gets to define the rules because???


42 posted on 01/28/2017 10:17:06 AM PST by Bayan
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Okay.


46 posted on 01/28/2017 10:20:14 AM PST by onedoug
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If one has destroyed the profound gift of life within them
The moral corruption is complete
If they would kill their own child
What other boundaries remain before the great fall

It would have better for them if they were never born

50 posted on 01/28/2017 10:28:43 AM PST by HangnJudge
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