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Obama's EPA moves to preserve gas mileage requirements(and ruin our cars)
Fox News Auto/AP ^ | January 13, 2017

Posted on 01/14/2017 7:33:06 AM PST by mtrott

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Thank you for referencing that article mtrott. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

"The Environmental Protection Agency moved Friday to cement strict fuel economy requirements [emphasis added] …”"

FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Regarding the EPA, although federal environmental protections are aguably a good idea, patriots are reminded that the states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds the specific power to regulate environmental protections. And previous generations of state sovereignty-respecting ustices have clariifed that powers not expressly constitutionally delegated to the federal government are prohibited to the feds.

In fact, another way to look at the EPA is the following.

Corrupt Congress is unconstitutionally allowing non-elected federal bureaucats, such as those running the EPA, to not only steal unique state powers to police the environment, but is also letting these bureacrats get away with using those stolen state powers to oppress the states and their citizens.

Drain the swamp! Drain the swamp!

Remember in November ’18 !

Since Trump entered the ’16 presidential race too late for patriots to make sure that there were state sovereignty-respecting candidates on the primary ballots, patriots need make sure that such candidates are on the ’18 primary ballots so that they can be elected to support Trump in draining the unconstitutionally big federal government swamp.

Such a Congress will also be able to finish draining the swamp with respect to getting the remaining state sovereignty-ignoring, activist justices off of the bench.

Noting that the primaries start in Iowa and New Hampshire in February ‘18, patriots need to challenge candidates for federal office in the following way.

Patriots need to qualify candidates by asking them why the Founding States made the Constitution’s Section 8 of Article I; to limit (cripple) the federal government’s powers.

Patriots also need to find candidates that are knowledgeable of the Supreme Court's clarifications of the federal government’s limited powers listed below.


81 posted on 01/14/2017 10:07:20 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: mtrott

Down sizing EPA,no one will care.


82 posted on 01/14/2017 10:27:32 AM PST by Libertynotfree (Over spending, Over taxes, and Over regulation)
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To: TexasGator

That is the same car made and driven in the 60’s when gas was $0.25 gal?


83 posted on 01/14/2017 11:06:52 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: TexasGator

Sorry but I wanted to add to your point.


84 posted on 01/14/2017 11:10:57 AM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day")
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To: charleywhiskey

“I think President Trump could cure this bit of insanity by directing the GSA to only purchase passenger vehicles that conform to the EPA’s latest fantasy.”

Why stop there? I, for one, would like to see them issued bicycles, with little pinwheels connected to a generator and a lithium battery for lighting so they can go out on nighttime covert operations. This would set a good example.


85 posted on 01/14/2017 11:15:07 AM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day")
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To: Gen.Blather
Here is my understanding of how it works. Congress passes a bill that, for example, all cars must get 50 miles per gallon by 2030. They assign the authority to write that law into regulations to the EPA...

The current standards were made up by the EPA, Congress didn't pass them. The EPA has no Constitutional authority to make up standards.

86 posted on 01/14/2017 12:17:48 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: mtrott

The easiest way to increase fuel economy is to eliminate dirty burning ethanol from our gasoline.


87 posted on 01/14/2017 12:35:10 PM PST by D Rider
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To: diogenes ghost
I surely would enjoy seeing Trump reverse this at the Detroit Auto Show, right before he places his order for the first Dodge Demon.

The Demon will be introduced at the NY Show in April. For folks who like their HP, Trump needs to jettison these standards.

88 posted on 01/14/2017 12:39:41 PM PST by FreeReign
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” The EPA has no Constitutional authority to make up standards. “

I agree with you 100%, but if that case went to the Supremes and they lost, our entire governmental structure would collapse. (A good thing, I think.) Think of all the hundreds of thousands of regulations that have the force of law passed by dozens of alphabet agencies.

Several years ago Congress requested a list of regulations from the DOJ that mandated jail time. The DOJ responded that there were thousands and there was no way to list them all or even find them all.

At the state level you can go to prison for disturbing tortious eggs, an eagle’s nest or catching too many of some protected fish. I don’t know one fish from another but the penalties are so strict I simply don’t fish.


89 posted on 01/14/2017 1:25:46 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: DaveA37

EPA needs to be eliminated.


90 posted on 01/14/2017 1:31:46 PM PST by wardamneagle
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To: PIF

Your post is not clear.


91 posted on 01/14/2017 1:54:26 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Your 475 hp car is the same one you drive in the 60s with the same corroborator? Or is is a new car designed to use unleaded. My 289 TVR Griffith got 27 mpg in the 60s on leaded, even going to the drags and driving over 100 mph. Wiped several 429 Cobras in street racing.


92 posted on 01/14/2017 2:24:10 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

First, I would like to congratulate you on surviving your time with the TVR!

As to the 429 Cobra I am guessing you are referring to the 427 Shelby Cobra which had a better power/weight ratio than the TVR and a good second better time in the quarter mile than even the 271 HIPO TVR. You may have surprised a couple but no way did you ‘wipe’ them.

My car is a 2016.


93 posted on 01/14/2017 4:48:59 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: mtrott

Since the EPA is forcing the crushing of my VW diesel, I have been looking at new cars.

what a load of trash out there All with high back ends that cannot be backed up because of lack of visual field. All have very thin skins, that need to be serviced because they will not hold up under usual road wear.

Trash.

The EPA ruined washers and driers by having efficiency standards that make the machines not work efficiently or well. They have done the same to cars.

The EPA is an enemy of Americans I pray it is disbanded.


94 posted on 01/14/2017 5:16:15 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: TexasGator

Thanks I survived quite well - really like the car - until some idiot arguing with his wife crashed into me while I was waiting in line at a toll booth. Totaled.

Well, I can only relate my and other TVR drivers at the time - despite the paper stats - wiped was the word - so much so that Ford withdrew the engines from Griffith Ford on Long Island due to many losses at the track and so ended that.


95 posted on 01/16/2017 12:13:06 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

Despite paper stats ...

Despite phyics ...

Despite NO supporting data ...

BTW, it was a dock stike that stop the bodies from coming in, NOT Ford withdrawing the engine.

But nevermind, memories are great.


96 posted on 01/16/2017 1:10:45 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: mtrott

Bet me.


97 posted on 01/16/2017 1:43:06 PM PST by gogeo (But he's not a conserrrrrvative!)
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To: Cobra64

Mmmm....Imperial. I keep wondering when Fiat will resurrect that nameplate.


98 posted on 01/16/2017 1:57:18 PM PST by gogeo (But he's not a conserrrrrvative!)
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To: TexasGator

Ford withdrawing the engine. is what the company said, Sorry, I only have what I was told by the people that put them together.

Sorry, I have only my personal experience to draw on. I defer to some one who knows more than I apparently do as I must have been hallucinating for all those years.


99 posted on 01/16/2017 4:04:01 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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