Posted on 12/24/2016 10:06:11 AM PST by Kaslin
Politics is a game, in some ways akin to football. A win depends on how many points are on the official scoreboard, not on how many yards have been covered.
For a stable society to exist or a game to be successful, certain rules must be followed. They may be simple or complex, few or many, handed down orally or through a complex code, but they underlie a structured order.
Adherence to that structure is essential even in politics, which is an ongoing process with no eternal answers. It is natural in politics that conclusions and procedures once generally accepted are inevitably subject to change. As Thomas Jefferson wrote in his letter of September 6, 1789 to James Madison, "[n]o society can make a perpetual constitution or even a perpetual law."
The presidential election just held raises the issue of the usefulness of the Electoral College (E.C.) in the U.S. today. Many Democrats, including the largely Democratic media, comprising ardent Clinton supporters disappointed in her defeat, have called for a change in the U.S. Constitution and specifically the E.C., since Donald Trump's election to the presidency of the U.S.
The 2016 election took on highly unusually emotional overtones in support of the different candidates. Questioning the authority of the E.C. seems to be a continuation of that emotion rather than a rational proposal. As such, it borders on breaking the official rules of the existing system.
The issue of the case for and the validity of political or social disobedience has always been present in life and in literature. Questions arise about whether it is morally or politically right to disobey and refuse to accept the existing rules
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
It’s most very simple at this time.
Those who oppose the electoral college support massive voter fraud.
Furthermore, a straight up national popular vote for president requires one more thing… national reciprocity of vote legitimacy. For State A to recognize the legitimacy of State B votes/voters, State A is going to want all of the voters from State B to be vetted/accredited/accounted for in a similar fashion as their own State A voters. Basically, any state that requires voter IDs if going to want every other state’s voters to be similarly qualified if all the votes get lumped together nationally. I believe a push for nationwide popular vote will see a big counter-demand for nationwide standardization of Voter ID Law.....I'm just saying that if you lump ALL people from all states together into one big pool of popular votes – certain states are going to DEMAND that if you individual votes to count equally across state lines, then the qualifications to across state lines should also be identical/equal. And frankly, it’s not an unreasonable request....Unfortunately, the only way to really do that is implementing some sort of ID law or something… and getting all sides to agree to some sort uniform voter registration/ID is going to be like herding cats. Realistically, I don’t see it happening.
Under the Trump administration, the progressive left will be obliterated.
There are no ‘cons’ to the EC.
Any conjured ‘con’ reflects a lack of understanding of its intricacies, history (going way back before 1789), and/or possible future should it be eliminated.
I hope you are correct in that, but I fear it actually falls to us to force and then enforce the changes at a grass roots level to meet the downward pressure for the same from Trump’s top down pressure.
And we, as a people, have shown nothing other than absolute fail in that regard.
NO! Liberals who seek tyranny over all Americans raised the specter like they do every time the commie bastards LOSE.
Here is the end game (see below). Load up population centers with ISIS and illegals. Let everyone vote. ISIS infiltrates the local and State governments and voila - no go zones, Sharia Law and the dismantlement of the constitution.
Anyone who even mentions abolishing the Electoral College should be beaten to within an inch of their lives.
It is fun watching the libtards’ heds exploding.
There is a huge con to the EC. Electoral votes are apportioned with no regard for citizenship. California would have 55 electoral votes even if it had 0 citizens living there.
There are no “cons”.
The states joined the Union based on terms and conditions which included the Constitution as it was written when they joined. It would require a Constitutional Amendment to change it in such a fundamental way (to change the US from a Republic to a Popular Democracy). The states smaller than CA, TX, FL, and NY would not agree to lose their say in elections for President.
It seems to me that it would be far simpler to hack a single National Popular Vote than to hack 50 separate state elections.
The electoral college proved its worth to me by preventing California from stealing the election with illegal votes.
I learned about the Electoral college in the 6th grade
It isn’t exactly a secret
Its sad that these lefties did not learn it, or believe our own constitution is unconstitutional, I just don’t get.
You play by the rules, that is how you win. Trump did exactly that. If the vote is determined by the popular vote, Trump would have ran a different campaign. Just like if the world series is won by total number of runs vs total number of games won.
I think we’re more apt to see states splitting their electoral college votes like Nebraska and Maine. The downside to the liberals is that Trump would have picked up some Kalifornia votes. Consider how many people didn’t bother to vote their and in New York.
Pro - keeps CA and NY from dominating politics.
Con - 48 states have winner take all.
i remember when Obama won and everyone was bitchin about the Electoral College....
The Liberals/Democrats want the Electoral College abolished so California can elect the President every four years. It’s as simple as that.
The big problem with CA is their zeal to let in illegal non-citizens (criminaliens).
I would presume that non-citizens here, say, on visas (non-immigrant - traveling and the like), don’t count towards electoral votes.
If the Electoral College keeps money-grubbing, inherently-dishonest, America-hating harridans that should be in prison from gaining the White House, then I say that there are only PROS.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.