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After Berlin attack, Europe weighs freedom against security
Associated Press ^ | Dec 24, 2016 9:45 AM EST | Angela Charlton

Posted on 12/24/2016 7:39:19 AM PST by Olog-hai

Europe’s open borders may symbolize liberty and forward thinking for some — but they increasingly look like the continent’s Achilles’ heel.

Europe’s No. 1 terrorism suspect crossed at least two borders this week despite an international manhunt, and was felled only by chance, in a random ID check. The bungled chase for Berlin attack suspect Anis Amri is just one example of recent cross-border security failures that are emboldening nationalists fed up with European unity. Extremist violence, they argue, is too high a price to pay for the freedom to travel.

Defenders of the EU’s border-free zone say the security failures show the need for more cooperation among European governments, even shared militaries — not new barriers. Hidebound habits of hoarding intelligence within centuries-old borders, they contend, are part of the problem. …

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TOPICS: Germany; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: amri; berlin; dhimmitude; eurabia; merkel; openborders; rop; schengen
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1 posted on 12/24/2016 7:39:19 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

No idea. Freedom v security??

Why should not allowing in people from anti European regions affect Germans’ security OR freedom in a negative way? They can have both. They are idiots


2 posted on 12/24/2016 7:43:09 AM PST by stanne
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More fakenews, the false dilemma of freedom versus security. Marxist open borders = freedom while restoration of national borders ≠ freedom, says the Dissociated Press.
3 posted on 12/24/2016 7:46:31 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: stanne

...They can have both. They are idiots...

They are liberals.


4 posted on 12/24/2016 7:47:45 AM PST by Sasparilla (I 'm Not Tired Of Winning)
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To: Olog-hai

“Let’s self-inject with a syringe of HIV virus, slap a bandaid on the pin prick...and we’re good to go.”

Yep, that’ll do it.


5 posted on 12/24/2016 7:48:14 AM PST by moovova
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To: Olog-hai

Europe hasn’t figured it out? You can’t have freedom without security. And that includes secure borders and a core of cultural and legal standards that are ingrained in shared experiences.


6 posted on 12/24/2016 7:49:52 AM PST by grania
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To: Olog-hai

Whose freedom is being weighed? It doesn’t seem as if the freedom of actual citizens is at stake, just “immigrants” with bad intent.


7 posted on 12/24/2016 7:52:06 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: stanne

So long as the countries of Europe are held hostage by the Muslim minority pouring into their lands, they shall enjoy neither freedom nor security.

Throw off your chains, o great mothers of the colonization of North America!


8 posted on 12/24/2016 7:54:32 AM PST by alloysteel (It is OK to use the greeting "Merry Christmas" again. Happy birthday, Jesus!)
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To: Olog-hai

They have a choice of being subjected to outrageous acts of violence perpetrated against them, or defending themselves against such terrorism. It is not a question of security over freedom, it is more like a choice of life over death.


9 posted on 12/24/2016 7:54:49 AM PST by euram
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To: Olog-hai

Purge the Moslems. Keep the freedom and the security.


10 posted on 12/24/2016 8:16:55 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Deplorable and loving it.)
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There are other problems related to Schengen, of course; and you’ll have the “Europhiles” blather on about their sacred “freedom of travel”.


11 posted on 12/24/2016 8:18:14 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

fake comparison.
It freedom and security versus open borders


12 posted on 12/24/2016 8:19:08 AM PST by rod1 (CTLY)
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The problem is Europe is and never will be one. This idea of mobile freedom is truly based on memories of past simpler times, like days when you could sleep with your front door open.

Islam can be read as death cult that likes to play nice as their roots grow deep in new lands; but once they get their foot-hold, their demands and cult behavior springs forth all over and you then see the total cancer that has been allowed to fester. This can kill the host, or at least they hope so.


13 posted on 12/24/2016 8:25:23 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Olog-hai

The open borders were supposed to be for Europeans traveling among European countries.

It has worked pretty well. It only stops working when you pretend that muslims are Europeans. It only stops working when you open your borders to non-Europeans.


14 posted on 12/24/2016 8:34:27 AM PST by marron
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Close the borders, Europe. Also, DEPORT those camel bumpers. Any questions?


15 posted on 12/24/2016 8:42:14 AM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is DEPLORABLE :-))
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No, it has not worked very well. There are tensions between those of “European” descent when they move to other countries, which shows the error of attempting to create an artificial “European” demos (much like the USSR attempted to create the “Soviet people” out of several different nations). So it goes beyond the acute problem of Muslims, never mind such from Africa and Asia Minor.


16 posted on 12/24/2016 8:47:56 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Countries that have hate speech laws don’t get to discuss Freedom.
Might offend someone, don’t you know.


17 posted on 12/24/2016 8:50:01 AM PST by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Little Ray

Never mind no constitutional resource to push back with once a pushback occurs. It’s force against force.


18 posted on 12/24/2016 8:51:07 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Who other than politicians wants the freedom to import more Muslims?


19 posted on 12/24/2016 8:53:45 AM PST by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat)
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They let the criminals in as an excuse to treat everyone like a criminal.

In this way, people will gladly give up their freedoms.

Witness FReepers calling for eVerify. Next FReepers will demand to be microchiped.


20 posted on 12/24/2016 8:56:27 AM PST by UnwashedPeasant (I told you so)
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