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The Fed may ruin one of Trump's biggest plans for the economy
Business Insider ^ | Dec. 21, 2016 | Bob Bryan

Posted on 12/22/2016 2:58:45 AM PST by expat_panama

President-elect Donald Trump promised on the campaign trail to return the US to 4% gross-domestic-product growth during his presidency.

One of the best ways to achieve this appears to be his proposed $550 billion stimulus package to help rebuild infrastructure.

Even if Trump can get his infrastructure plan past Democrats, deficit hawks in his own party, and regulators, there may be one more opponent preventing an economic boom: Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen...

...comments at the Fed's December meeting appear to signal a "Yellen Call" that will dampen the financial and economic impact of any large-scale infrastructure plan.

The strategists argue that Yellen is concerned that the economy is near full employment...

...clearly focused on the prospects for fiscal stimulus at a time of full employment... ...'… my predecessor and I called for fiscal stimulus when the unemployment rate was substantially higher than it is now.'... ...she nonetheless continued to make the case for 'the strongest job market...

...Trump's picks for Treasury and commerce secretaries, have said Yellen has done a good job at the Fed, so Trump's more confrontational tendencies may be muted...

...Equities and other risk assets have been on a tremendous run since the election on the prospects on higher growth (and lower taxes), so counteraction by the Fed may dampen their hopes.

"What increasingly seems less uncertain, however, are the risks to risky assets stemming from the 'Yellen Call' (the logical successor to the 'Bernanke Put')," the Goldman team says. "This is the idea that subsequent rallies in risky assets from here will likely provoke a more rapid tightening of monetary policy."

Despite Trump's claims of a massive economic boost, Yellen and the Fed may put a cap on just how high this stimulus can push markets or the economy.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; fed; investing
Question: If Trump campaigned for higher rates, so why should he be hurt if Yellen raises rates?

Answer: Trump also campainged to keep rates low:

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/09/12/donald-trumps-shifting-words-on-interest-rates-and-janet-yellen/

1 posted on 12/22/2016 2:58:45 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

Hoodwink alert!

It is not a zero sum equation! The lawyers in Congress are about to get a very big education, the hard way.


2 posted on 12/22/2016 3:03:02 AM PST by mazda77
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To: expat_panama

This must be in the IBD’s comedy section. They use a comedic phrase of “deficit hawks” who in DC dem or Rep falls under that phrase?


3 posted on 12/22/2016 3:20:42 AM PST by mythenjoseph (Separation of powers)
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To: expat_panama
The strategists argue that Yellen is concerned that the economy is near full employment...

It is near "full employment" by which measure? I've heard that record numbers of people have left the workforce, that record numbers of young adults are still living with their parents, and that many people who do work are juggling two or three part-time jobs. None of these measures point at "full employment" to me.

4 posted on 12/22/2016 3:20:45 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: expat_panama
I didn't want to click, but did they mention the Greenspan put? Or is pre-2000 too prehistoric for the writers? The reason I ask is that my job prospects were scant leaving college in 1985, not due to Vollker raising rates but because the field where I wanted to work, making custom hardware boards for minicomputers, was dying.

I really should have known since the previous year the 386 had been introduced. The company I worked for had some of the first versions. So I should have known the new PC economy would take off. An entire minicomputer on a single board. I guess the reason I wasn't a believer was that coming off the wave solder station. Zero yield. Every board had to be traced and resoldered by hand. I was a lousy tech and the best I could was sit and watch. I was good at SW not HW and should have realized that HW would be free and SW would have the most value.

I should have also realized that the high rates from previous years that paid for my college would not kill the economy. On the contrary they strengthened the dollar after its 1970's beating, we imported cheap Japanese hardware, wrote SW and cleaned up against the Japanese who were, by 1988 going to take over the world economy.

Things are a bit different today starting with a strong dollar but as Kudlow says we want it to be strong for the right reasons. We may also be on the cusp of another economic change where automation will help bring back our manufacturing. The jobs will come with it, contrary to the naysayers, and they won't all require college.

5 posted on 12/22/2016 3:28:08 AM PST by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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To: expat_panama

The best way to bring back growth is a round of tax cuts.


6 posted on 12/22/2016 3:32:38 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: mythenjoseph
"This must be in the IBD’s comedy section."

AFAIK, "Business Insider" has nothing to do with IBD. I take anything they publish with several tons of salt.


7 posted on 12/22/2016 3:36:28 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Every nation has the government it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

“The best way to bring back growth is a round of tax cuts.”

I would argue that leaving tax rates essentially alone and eliminating the senseless, onerous, choking regulations would do more than tax cuts. And there are plenty of those around to get rid of.

I hope this will not be misconstrued as being against lower tax rates. Far from it.


8 posted on 12/22/2016 3:44:50 AM PST by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: expat_panama

The Fed is concerned about inflation. If the Fed is now talking about more interest rate increases during 2017 then it’s an indication that they expect the economy to grow at a faster rate under Trump than they expected under Clinton.


9 posted on 12/22/2016 3:49:05 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
The best way to bring back growth is a round of tax cuts.

Deficits, too. Yellen has always been a deficit hawk.

10 posted on 12/22/2016 3:50:22 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Paulie

“I would argue that leaving tax rates essentially alone and eliminating the senseless, onerous, choking regulations would do more than tax cuts. And there are plenty of those around to get rid of.”

Regulation isn’t just a problem at the federal level. Many states tie up businesses in a labyrinth of regulations, rules and licenses.


11 posted on 12/22/2016 4:22:11 AM PST by Soul of the South (Tomorrow is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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WTF can TRUMP get rid of Yelling?


12 posted on 12/22/2016 4:39:59 AM PST by KavMan
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To: expat_panama

President Trump could benefit greatly by establishing an independent committee to identify the true baseline of the current economic state with respect to the ‘Great Depression’ era. Then he can report on progress versus at baseline with tangible, accurate statistics. If he starts reporting improvements based on leftist lies he won’t have anything to show for all of his great work.


13 posted on 12/22/2016 4:41:26 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?!?)
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To: expat_panama

> “The strategists argue that Yellen is concerned that the economy is near full employment.”

There are 94 million people out of work.

One of the things that requires a review is the deception of economic formulas in computing statistics. Current formulas for computing economic statistics of key indicators are inaccurate and purposefully so.


14 posted on 12/22/2016 4:49:41 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: expat_panama

Meddling to the degree noted is beyond her capacity. She dare not


15 posted on 12/22/2016 4:51:44 AM PST by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Macroagression melts snowflakes)
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To: mythenjoseph

This is sourced from ‘Business Insider’ which is a recent entry to the ‘moderate’ category of business blogging. They are in fact founded by hard-core leftists who purposefully hide their true agenda.


16 posted on 12/22/2016 4:53:02 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: bert

My take: aside from the fact that she’s not clear on the fact that she needs to give up on fiscal policy and stick to monetary policy —that she’ll raise rates if she really thinks we got inflation if she doesn’t she won’t.


17 posted on 12/22/2016 5:16:15 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

If Yellen proves to be an obstacle she’ll be gone.

Trump can raise 100,000 protesters to show up at her home if he asks them to.


18 posted on 12/22/2016 6:00:27 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Soul of the South

“Regulation isn’t just a problem at the federal level. Many states tie up businesses in a labyrinth of regulations, rules and licenses.”

Good point.


19 posted on 12/22/2016 6:32:36 AM PST by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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