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Federal Appeals Court In Fresno Overturns Bullet-Stamp Ruling
ReLoad1 ^ | 12/3/2016 | ER1C

Posted on 12/21/2016 10:31:25 AM PST by Mechanicos

From AP — Gun manufacturers have the right to present evidence supporting their claim that technology does not exist to comply with a California law requiring new models of semi-automatic handguns to stamp identifying information on bullet casings, a state appeals court said Thursday.

The ruling by the 5th District Court of Appeals in Fresno overturned a lower court ruling rejecting a lawsuit by two firearms trade associations that challenged the law.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guns; microstamping
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A minor win to allow presenting evidence of impossible to comply with the law.

http://reloadone.com/federal-appeals-court-in-fresno-overturns-bullet-stamp-ruling/

1 posted on 12/21/2016 10:31:25 AM PST by Mechanicos
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To: Mechanicos

Those idiots in CA have never heard of revolvers?


2 posted on 12/21/2016 10:38:32 AM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Mechanicos; bang_list
bullet/case micro stamping is one of the biggest farces in gun control (and there are many). IF it passed, and say, everything built from today on was micro stamped, it would take decades, if not hundreds of years to get a prosecution and conviction on that alone.

There are hundreds of millions of firearms not microstamped, and the last time I checked, criminals use stolen weapons, so all it would do is send the cops back to the poor gun owner that had his/her weapon stolen in the first place.

Microstamping is legislation being pushed to enrich antigun liberals, who are in on the ground floor of corruption at the federal to corporate level.

3 posted on 12/21/2016 10:38:35 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: grobdriver

What does a revolver have to do with it?


4 posted on 12/21/2016 10:40:57 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Mechanicos

Does any really good news come out of California anymore? This sounds like a win but only to a really bad lose to start with.

California has felt like another country for some time now and I know we have a lot of good Freepers living behind the enemy lines of the border of CA but geez if it goes any further left it really will fall off into the ocean.

At least the communist secessionists now have an embassy in, wait for it, Moscow... eliminating any pretense of them being in any way American Constitutionalists.


5 posted on 12/21/2016 10:42:42 AM PST by Boomer
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

It leaves no brass laying around fro the police to retrieve?


6 posted on 12/21/2016 10:43:27 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: grobdriver; Mechanicos

Since the firing pin never contacts the bullet it sounds ridiculous from a legal aspect.

The firing pin contacts the primer. This law sounds about a plausible as ObamaCare.


7 posted on 12/21/2016 10:44:15 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Because the case with the hypothetical "microstamp" remains in the cylinder of the revolver, that's why.

The story confuses "bullet" (the projectile), "case" (the brass cylinder containing the powder, primer, and projectile), and "cartridge" (which generally refers to a complete loaded round of ammunition, unfired).

You can't really microstamp a bullet because (a) it never contacts the firing pin; and (b) it is generally badly damaged upon impact.

Never mind that any microstamp will be quickly eroded by friction, and that replacing a firing pin is a matter of minutes with the proper tools.

8 posted on 12/21/2016 10:44:37 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Shell casings aren’t left on the scene from a revolver so the, mircoprint BS evidence wouldn’t exist because the perpetrator would walk away with it unless they reloaded.


9 posted on 12/21/2016 10:45:40 AM PST by PJBankard
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To: jospehm20

That is a good point is some cases. Everytime I get in a firefight I keep leaving brass all over the place. I guess I’ll need to be a little neater. /h/


10 posted on 12/21/2016 10:45:56 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I am just guessing what he meant.


11 posted on 12/21/2016 10:48:38 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: Mechanicos

Even if this were possible, how does a prosecutor prove the shell casings found at the crime scene weren’t planted? Are you going to be able to retrieve every piece of brass every time you go to the range? Miss just one and it could fall into the wrong hands.


12 posted on 12/21/2016 10:49:49 AM PST by MadPenguin (Gun control is one armed group trying to disarm another armed group!)
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To: DCBryan1

Not to mention that it is not at all difficult to replace a firing pin.


13 posted on 12/21/2016 10:57:46 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Always police your brass...

;-)


14 posted on 12/21/2016 10:58:55 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: DCBryan1

service parts....

or even a piece of sandpaper or file and your micro-stamp is gone.


15 posted on 12/21/2016 10:59:08 AM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Mechanicos

Nice way to frame someone for Murder.


16 posted on 12/21/2016 11:00:40 AM PST by Kickass Conservative ( Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
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To: DCBryan1

The purpose of micro-stamping laws has nothing to do with crime solving. It is intended solely to infringe 2A rights by cutting down the number of new firearms available to citizens. If CA’s current law stands, they will have guaranteed that no new semi-auto’s will see CA markets.


17 posted on 12/21/2016 11:02:31 AM PST by umgud (ban all infidelaphobics)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
What does a revolver have to do with it?

The cases are not ejected to be found at the crime scene.

18 posted on 12/21/2016 11:13:24 AM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: AnAmericanMother

There have been suggestions in the past that each bullet needs to have a serial number or lot number etched on its base at the factory.


19 posted on 12/21/2016 11:15:26 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: grobdriver
Those idiots in CA have never heard of revolvers?

Yeah, but revolvers don't look as sinister when held "gansta"...


20 posted on 12/21/2016 11:20:52 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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