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Bergdahl awaits another gift from President Obama
Lowell Sun ^ | 12/21 | peter lucas

Posted on 12/20/2016 7:36:47 AM PST by luke1825

Who would have thought that Bowe Bergdahl would score a presidential pardon before Hillary Clinton?

Not that President Barack Obama has pardoned either one -- at least not yet.

But Christmas is coming. So don't be surprised if Obama lets Sgt. Bergdahl walk instead of having him stand trial, as scheduled, for desertion and misbehavior in the face of the enemy.

U.S. Army Sgt. Bergdahl endangered his fellow soldiers when he walked off his post in Afghanistan in 2009, leaving his weapon and body armor behind, and walked into the arms of the Taliban.

(Excerpt) Read more at lowellsun.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bergdahl; desertion; govtabuse; obama; pardon; presidentialpardon; traitor; treason

1 posted on 12/20/2016 7:36:47 AM PST by luke1825
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To: luke1825

if Obama hints at a pardon, the Army should upgrade the charges to treason. No presidential pardon allowed for that.


2 posted on 12/20/2016 7:40:33 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember

“if Obama hints at a pardon, the Army should upgrade the charges to treason. No presidential pardon allowed for that.”

Are you sure? Source?


3 posted on 12/20/2016 7:43:07 AM PST by Mercat (Men never do evil so fully and cheerfully as when they do it out of conscience.” (Blaise Pascal))
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To: VRWCmember

The only exception to the President’s power of pardon is “cases of impeachment”. So if he wants to pardon Bergdahl, even for treason, there is nothing anyone can do about it.


4 posted on 12/20/2016 7:45:19 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: luke1825

Obama will pardon him so he can go back to his friends in Afghanistan


5 posted on 12/20/2016 7:47:14 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: luke1825

You know damn well he’s gonna pardon him 15 minutes before he leaves the Whitehouse for the last time. That way, he’ll get a chance to grab Bowe’s mamas a** again.


6 posted on 12/20/2016 7:49:45 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

“That way, he’ll get a chance to grab Bowe’s mamas a** again.”

You mean the dad’s?


7 posted on 12/20/2016 7:55:10 AM PST by mothball
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To: luke1825
There isn't going to be a Hillary pardon. Losers don't get prizes. Once difference between Obama and Hillary is intelligence and judgement. He has some ability to think for himself she doesn't. I was so overjoyed when i learned she put that Robbie Mook in charge of her campaign. No gift for strategic thinking.

As Trump said she has terrible judgement

8 posted on 12/20/2016 7:56:20 AM PST by datricker (President Elect Trump MAGA baby MAGA yeah! Free Julian!)
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To: Sacajaweau

You mean papa’s ass, don’t you?


9 posted on 12/20/2016 7:56:37 AM PST by onedoug
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To: luke1825

Has baby boy Bowe ever spoken to kooky mom and crazy dad since he was “rescue?”

That has always struck me as being extremely odd - that he didn’t talk to his parents when he returned.


10 posted on 12/20/2016 7:58:37 AM PST by KosmicKitty (Waiting for inspirations)
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To: Mercat; hanamizu

You are correct; I was mistaken. Presidential pardon power extends to all offenses except in cases of impeachment. Not sure where I translated cases of impeachment to treason, but I clearly misremembered my past readings of Article II.


11 posted on 12/20/2016 8:03:41 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: luke1825
I wonder if they'll redo this picture at the White House with Bergdahl include this time. Hey, maybe even a picture with the Obamas and the Bergdahls sitting around the White House Christmas tree....


12 posted on 12/20/2016 8:05:01 AM PST by Perseverando (For Progressives, Islamonazis & other Totalitarians: It's all about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: VRWCmember

I didn’t say you were wrong but I had never heard that. Thanks for checking.


13 posted on 12/20/2016 8:05:42 AM PST by Mercat (Men never do evil so fully and cheerfully as when they do it out of conscience.” (Blaise Pascal))
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To: luke1825

So is there any hint that Obama is even thinking of this? I know that he has been mentioned as a pardon candidate along with Bradley Manning but I think Obama is too busy pardoning drug convictions to deal with either one.


14 posted on 12/20/2016 8:07:20 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Mercat

Well you could dig it out here:http://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/2/essays/89/pardon-power


15 posted on 12/20/2016 8:08:15 AM PST by SkyDancer (Abition Without Talent Is Sad, Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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To: SkyDancer

LOL I spent 40 years looking things up.. I’m retired. But thanks. Nice website.


16 posted on 12/20/2016 8:14:18 AM PST by Mercat (Men never do evil so fully and cheerfully as when they do it out of conscience.” (Blaise Pascal))
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To: Mercat

Pardons for treason have been givien before,

Andrew Johnson

Proclamation 179—Granting Full Pardon and Amnesty for the Offense of Treason Against the United States During the Late Civil War
December 25, 1868


17 posted on 12/20/2016 8:14:54 AM PST by ThomasThomas (Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions.)
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To: luke1825

POS should have been shot on the spot once they saw he went native. Now the only alternative is a hanging


18 posted on 12/20/2016 8:18:43 AM PST by Spruce
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To: Spruce

“Now the only alternative is a hanging”

Not the ONLY alternative...............


19 posted on 12/20/2016 8:27:41 AM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights .........It is the LAW...)
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To: luke1825

I remember that Hilary’s get out of jail card from the FBI investigation was if she “intended” to commit the crime as a crime.

Certain types of offenses committed by military personnel assume the aspect of treason and present a rather difficult problem, not in establishing the fact that the act was committed, but in establishing that the act was committed with a specific intent and therefore is a treasonable act. * Lucrus E. YouNG, Lt. Col., Inf., U.S.A., 2nd year student, Washington College of Law, American University.

To convict a person of treason in a civil federal court, the specific intent must be shown; in military courts, no specific -intent must be shown. Articles 99, 100, 104 and 105 of the Code (M.C.M. 1951, pp. 443-444) provide military jurisdiction over offenses involving surrender, compelling surrender, aiding the enemy and misconduct as a prisoner of war. Three of these Articles specifically confer jurisdiction upon “any person subject to this code,” while Article 104 (aiding the enemy) confers jurisdiction over “any person who” aids or attempts to aid the enemy or communicates with the enemy. All of them, in varying degrees, may be said to be acts of betrayal of one’s country.

red


20 posted on 12/20/2016 8:32:28 AM PST by Redwood71
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To: Sacajaweau

Do not know if you can issue a pardon if there is not a conviction.


21 posted on 12/20/2016 8:53:38 AM PST by catman67 (14 gauge?)
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To: catman67

I’m sure you can....it’s just semantics...


22 posted on 12/20/2016 8:57:55 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: catman67

Nixon was pardoned...but never convicted.


23 posted on 12/20/2016 8:59:48 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: luke1825

Poor Bowe has been in the spotlight for so long and his trial is not until next spring, he deserves a break.

Members of his former unit should be allowed to take him on a week camping trip, far from civilization, to catch up on old times.


24 posted on 12/20/2016 9:03:26 AM PST by Hillbilly sage
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To: luke1825

http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/7-famous-presidential-pardons


25 posted on 12/20/2016 9:03:40 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: luke1825
Never having run afoul of the UCMJ I don't know much about "military justice".However,given many things that have happened...things that have been said...it could,IMO,be said that Obama's guilty of "undue command influence" which,IIRC,is specifically forbidden by the Code.

If,by chance,I'm correct it seems possible that this pig's case won't even go to trial.So it could be that the pig walks whatever happens.

26 posted on 12/20/2016 9:21:05 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: catman67
Do not know if you can issue a pardon if there is not a conviction.

Yep. In 1866, the Supreme Court ruled in Ex parte Garland that the pardon power "extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment." (In that case, a former Confederate senator successfully petitioned the court to uphold a pardon that prevented him from being disbarred.) Generally speaking, once an act has been committed, the president can issue a pardon at any time—regardless of whether charges have even been filed.

Source: Preemptive Presidential Pardon

27 posted on 12/20/2016 9:21:19 AM PST by Washi (Democracy: Three wolves and one sheep deciding what's for dinner.)
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To: luke1825

Obama may pardon Bergdahl, but the public and those that served with him will never do it. Bergdahl even if pardoned will remain Pariah for the rest of his life.


28 posted on 12/20/2016 10:36:00 AM PST by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: luke1825

If Obama pardons Bergdahl for crimes under the UCMJ; Bergdahl should be tried for treason under Federal Statute.


29 posted on 12/20/2016 6:07:15 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Make lemonade.)
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