What are you going to do about the 11.3 million people who are part of the current Obamacare system?
This monster was built over years. It not going to be done away with by a simple vote. It was purposefully devised to be hard to get rid of. The Dems even tried to put in a provision that it could NOT be repealed by a future Congress.
This is monster is not going to die on day one. It is going to be difficult to kill it all and then we are going to have to plow the ground and salt it just to make sure.
Bingo. It was designed with a multitude of tentacles entrenched in numerous agencies and institutions for this reason. Ever try to pull up a sapling to get all the roots out of the ground? Very difficult to do.
What are you going to do about the 11.3 million people who are part of the current Obamacare system?
But seriously, their plan can stay in place until the next enrollment period. In my case, I have not had health care insurance since Jan 1, 2014 (the day Obamacare was implemented). I also don’t plan on getting health care insurance.
But health care insurance is not the government’s job. This needs to go away by the next open enrollment period.
It was purposefully devised to be hard to get rid of.
Well, I’ve got a message for the politicians: If you can’t make the hard decisions necessary to kill this beast immediately, you won’t have the brass ones necessary to pass and enforce the austerity measures necessary to keep this country from collapsing into MadMaxville.
For me, their handling of the removal of Obamacare will tell me how much gold, ammo and long term food I need to buy (if any) for the collapse.
Nice to see some common sense on the subject. The truth is, the insurance carriers spent 3 years and MILLIONS of $$$ in the run up to zerocare going full on. That fact alone says that it will take time - 2-3 years, in my estimation - to bring it under full control.
I laugh at those that suggest we "just go back to what we had before!". Lol. NOT gonna happen. And if it did go that way, to be honest, that would be the one best method of bringing about single payer. Most folks don't know what all goes into each year for an insurance carrier, from the regulations to other requirements.
And that doesn't mention the individual state regulators, actuary #'s and so much more.
I think if it’s “gone” private insurers will step in quickly. What will be more difficult is that the “portability” across state lines really means “portability” between employers, which is impossible. The pools change.
Even more difficult, and one I think we will all end up just having to go along with, is the “pre-existing condition” stuff, because EVERY person can be judged to have a “pre-existing condition.” People who had a heart problem 20 years ago and have been fine, people in remission for 30 years with MS, on and on, these are all “pre-existing conditions.” My guess—only a guess-—is there will be some language defining pre-existing condition as “as defined as active in the prior five years.”
Now, Freepers are gonna scream at me, but this WILL be a major issue and HSAs are totally incapable of handling this. The other issue is to remove the subsidies American drug companies provide to Europeans by being able to charge extremely high prices for drugs here. I’m guessing this can be handled by simple re-import legislation as opposed to price controls, but the issue isn’t that the drug companies are greedy, it is that they cannot charge what they need to abroad, so they charge where they can-—here. That has to stop.
You are correct, it won’t happen overnight. The reason is that Trump will sign an EO doing away with the rules that say you have to buy insurance in your state market. Then, Obamacare “victims” will automatically be able to buy cheaper insurance and will do so. It will take a while for that to happen!
Pass a bill nullifying the mandates and subsidies. That way if they want to pay for their insurance the exchange is still there.
Eventually the whole thing would just die.
I would worry more about the over 300 million people who are not.
This monster was built over years. It not going to be done away with by a simple vote. It was purposefully devised to be hard to get rid of. The Dems even tried to put in a provision that it could NOT be repealed by a future Congress.
This is monster is not going to die on day one. It is going to be difficult to kill it all and then we are going to have to plow the ground and salt it just to make sure.
Donald Trump, in his campaign speeches said that we will never be able to go back to the healthcare systems we had before Obama, Pelosi and Reid destroyed it with Obamacare.
After defunding the collectivist's mess, the only thing that can be done is strip the overburdensome regulations and takeaway each state's protectionist regulatory ability to allow only recognized insurers to serve individuals in their state, enabling the free market to straighten out the damage the socialists caused.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Obamacare essentially swap one set of 11 million uninsured for another set of 11 million uninsured? Basically, now the "right" (by liberal standards) 11 million have coverage that didn't before?
What do you do when there will always be some group that is disadvantaged? Is this a case of the perfect being the enemy of the good?
I want to know why we cannot just wholesale repeal the entire bill following the same process with which it was passed and let the free market fill the void? If Congress must pass something, let it remove barriers to competition (like state containment) and then get out of the way.
Let the private insurance risk pools reform, and then work on the causes of cost escalation, like excessive malpractice claims, disability fraud, drug and equipment testing costs, and illegal aliens swamping the urgent care system.
-PJ