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Urgent appeal: California Democrats to invoke new anti-Trump weapon
Los Angeles Daily News ^ | 12/11/2016 | Laurel Rosenhall

Posted on 12/11/2016 11:08:27 AM PST by Menehune56

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To: Menehune56

This sounds like a recipe for tyranny, to me. What they have just told me is that CA politicians are planning to impose diktats without any opportunity for citizens to fight back.


21 posted on 12/11/2016 11:26:10 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Menehune56

California becomes more soviet everyday. They are a joke and so is their commie media.


22 posted on 12/11/2016 11:26:34 AM PST by Luke21
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To: fhayek

The Dems see illegals as automatic Democrat voters. There is little doubt hundreds of thousands of them already illegally voted in the 2016 election.

Even more illegals = even more Dem voters to them.

This is an INVASION. At some point America wakes up and we either take out the Mexican trash again, or we lose a part of our country. It’s our choice.


23 posted on 12/11/2016 11:26:35 AM PST by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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To: Gen.Blather

Yep, as I said, butt wipes.


24 posted on 12/11/2016 11:27:42 AM PST by jetson
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To: fhayek

“Why would Californians want to maintain a stream of illegal immigrants into California?”

I think they are trying to solve the problem of the extreme underutilization of the roads and highways. They also feel that they are not contributing enough to global warming, so they need more people to use more resources than they otherwise would have in their own countries


25 posted on 12/11/2016 11:29:55 AM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Vaquero

No, they should just suck it. We won.


26 posted on 12/11/2016 11:30:25 AM PST by exnavy (this tagline under construction, pardon our dust!)
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To: fhayek

” What am I missing?”

The perpetual steam of Democrat voters.


27 posted on 12/11/2016 11:31:03 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Too. Much. Winning.)
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To: Menehune56

I’m sure they will pass all sorts of unconstutional stuff to be immediately inflicted on middle class whites. Forced vaccinations, a Marxist educational system, confiscatory taxes, speech codes, a predatory bureaucracy; how can hard working people and legimate small businesses make it under these conditions?
I don’t like the government and leftists running CA, but if they were to secede, they would pose an enormous security risk to the rest of the US. They would be a veritable client state for the Chicoms and SD and SF could become Chinese naval bases.


28 posted on 12/11/2016 11:31:31 AM PST by grumpygresh (We don't have Democrats and Republicans, we have the Faustian uni-party)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Yeah, I get the politicians. But I asked what Californians see in this.
29 posted on 12/11/2016 11:35:22 AM PST by fhayek
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To: Menehune56

Counterpunching when fighting Cassius Clay seldom worked.

I hope congressional Republicans intentionally pass bills the response to which would be very unpopular in California, even though demanded by their radical fruits and nuts.


30 posted on 12/11/2016 11:35:56 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Friday, January 20, 2017. Reparations end.)
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To: Menehune56

Will they be able to Pass Laws with an Urgency clause when they are in FEDERAL PRISON??

Federal Immigration and Nationality Act
Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)

“Any person who . . . encourages or induces an alien to . . . reside . . . knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such . . . residence is . . . in violation of law, shall be punished as provided . . . for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs . . . fined under title 18 . . . imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.”

Section 274 felonies under the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, INA 274A(a)(1)(A):

A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he:

* assists an alien s/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or

* encourages that alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or

* knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.

Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime. Anyone employing or contracting with an illegal alien without verifying his or her work authorization status is guilty of a misdemeanor. Aliens and employers violating immigration laws are subject to arrest, detention, and seizure of their vehicles or property. In addition, individuals or entities who engage in racketeering enterprises that commit (or conspire to commit) immigration-related felonies are subject to private civil suits for treble damages and injunctive relief.

Recruitment and Employment of Illegal Aliens

It is unlawful to hire an alien, to recruit an alien, or to refer an alien for a fee, knowing the alien is unauthorized to work in the United States. It is equally unlawful to continue to employ an alien knowing that the alien is unauthorized to work. Employers may give preference in recruitment and hiring to a U.S. citizen over an alien with work authorization only where the U.S. citizen is equally or better qualified. It is unlawful to hire an individual for employment in the United States without complying with employment eligibility verification requirements. Requirements include examination of identity documents and completion of Form I-9 for every employee hired. Employers must retain all I-9s, and, with three days’ advance notice, the forms must be made available for inspection. Employment includes any service or labor performed for any type of remuneration within the United States, with the exception of sporadic domestic service by an individual in a private home. Day laborers or other casual workers engaged in any compensated activity (with the above exception) are employees for purposes of immigration law. An employer includes an agent or anyone acting directly or indirectly in the interest of the employer. For purposes of verfication of authorization to work, employer also means an independent contractor, or a contractor other than the person using the alien labor. The use of temporary or short-term contracts cannot be used to circumvent the employment authorization verification requirements. If employment is to be for less than the usual three days allowed for completing the I-9 Form requirement, the form must be completed immediately at the time of hire.

An employer has constructive knowledge that an employee is an illegal unauthorized worker if a reasonable person would infer it from the facts. Constructive knowledge constituting a violation of federal law has been found where (1) the I-9 employment eligibility form has not been properly completed, including supporting documentation, (2) the employer has learned from other individuals, media reports, or any source of information available to the employer that the alien is unauthorized to work, or (3) the employer acts with reckless disregard for the legal consequences of permitting a third party to provide or introduce an illegal alien into the employer’s work force. Knowledge cannot be inferred solely on the basis of an individual’s accent or foreign appearance.

Actual specific knowledge is not required. For example, a newspaper article stating that ballrooms depend on an illegal alien work force of dance hostesses was held by the courts to be a reasonable ground for suspicion that unlawful conduct had occurred.

IT IS ILLEGAL FOR NONPROFIT OR RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS to knowingly assist an employer to violate employment sanctions, REGARDLESS OF CLAIMS THAT THEIR CONVICTIONS REQUIRE THEM TO ASSIST ALIENS. Harboring or aiding illegal aliens is not protected by the First Amendment. It is a felony to establish a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of federal immigration law. Violators may be fined or imprisoned for up to five years.

Encouraging and Harboring Illegal Aliens

It is a violation of law for any person to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection in any place, including any building or means of transportation, any alien who is in the United States in violation of law. HARBORING MEANS ANY CONDUCT THAT TENDS TO SUBSTANTIALLY FACILITATE AN ALIEN TO REMAIN IN THE U.S. ILLEGALLY. The sheltering need not be clandestine, and harboring covers aliens arrested outdoors, as well as in a building. This provision includes harboring an alien who entered the U.S. legally but has since lost his legal status.

An employer can be convicted of the felony of harboring illegal aliens who are his employees if he takes actions in reckless disregard of their illegal status, such as ordering them to obtain false documents, altering records, obstructing INS inspections, or taking other actions that facilitate the alien’s illegal employment. Any person who within any 12-month period hires ten or more individuals with actual knowledge that they are illegal aliens or unauthorized workers is guilty of felony harboring. It is also a felony to encourage or induce an alien to come to or reside in the U.S. knowing or recklessly disregarding the fact that the alien’s entry or residence is in violation of the law. This crime applies to any person, rather than just employers of illegal aliens. Courts have ruled that “encouraging” includes counseling illegal aliens to continue working in the U.S. or assisting them to complete applications with false statements or obvious errors. The fact that the alien is a refugee fleeing persecution is not a defense to this felony, since U.S. law and the UN Protocol on Refugees both require that a refugee must report to immigration authorities without delay upon entry to the U.S.

The penalty for felony harboring is a fine and imprisonment for up to five years. The penalty for felony alien smuggling is a fine and up to ten years’ imprisonment. Where the crime causes serious bodily injury or places the life of any person in jeopardy, the penalty is a fine and up to twenty years’ imprisonment. If the criminal smuggling or harboring results in the death of any person, the penalty can include life imprisonment. Convictions for aiding, abetting, or conspiracy to commit alien smuggling or harboring, carry the same penalties. Courts can impose consecutive prison sentences for each alien smuggled or harbored. A court may order a convicted smuggler to pay restitution if the alien smuggled qualifies as a victim under the Victim and Witness Protection Act. Conspiracy to commit crimes of sheltering, harboring, or employing illegal aliens is a separate federal offense punishable by a fine of up to $10,000 or five years’ imprisonment.

Enforcement

A person or entity having knowledge of a violation or potential violation of employer sanctions provisions may submit a signed written complaint to the INS office with jurisdiction over the business or residence of the potential violator, whether an employer, employee, or agent. The complaint must include the names and addresses of both the complainant and the violator, and detailed factual allegations, including date, time, and place of the potential violation, and the specific conduct alleged to be a violation of employer sanctions. By regulation, the INS will only investigate third-party complaints that have a reasonable probability of validity. Designated INS officers and employees, and all other officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws, may make an arrest for violation of smuggling or harboring illegal aliens.

State and local law enforcement officials have the general power to investigate and arrest violators of federal immigration statutes without prior INS knowledge or approval, as long as they are authorized to do so by state law. There is no extant federal limitation on this authority. The 1996 immigration control legislation passed by Congress was intended to encourage states and local agencies to participate in the process of enforcing federal immigration laws. Immigration officers and local law enforcement officers may detain an individual for a brief warrantless interrogation where circumstances create a reasonable suspicion that the individual is illegally present in the U.S. Specific facts constituting a reasonable suspicion include evasive, nervous, or erratic behavior; dress or speech indicating foreign citizenship; and presence in an area known to contain a concentration of illegal aliens. Hispanic appearance alone is not sufficient. Immigration officers and police must have a valid warrant or valid employer’s consent to enter workplaces or residences. Any vehicle used to transport or harbor illegal aliens, or used as a substantial part of an activity that encourages illegal aliens to come to or reside in the U.S. may be seized by an immigration officer and is subject to forfeiture. The forfeiture power covers any conveyances used within the U.S.

RICO — Citizen Recourse

Private persons and entities may initiate civil suits to obtain injunctions and treble damages against enterprises that conspire to or actually violate federal alien smuggling, harboring, or document fraud statutes, under the Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO). The pattern of racketeering activity is defined as commission of two or more of the listed crimes. A RICO enterprise can be any individual legal entity, or a group of individuals who are not a legal entity but are associated in fact, AND CAN INCLUDE NONPROFIT ASSOCIATIONS.

Tax Crimes

Employers who aid or abet the preparation of false tax returns by failing to pay income or Social Security taxes for illegal alien employees, or who knowingly make payments using false names or Social Security numbers, are subject to IRS criminal and civil sanctions. U.S. nationals who have suffered intentional discrimination because of citizenship or national origin by an employer with more than three employees may file a complaint within 180 days of the discriminatory act with the Special Counsel for Immigration-Related Unfair Employment Practices, U.S. Department of Justice. In additon to the federal statutes summarized, state laws and local ordinances controlling fair labor practices, workers compensation, zoning, safe housing and rental property, nuisance, licensing, street vending, and solicitations by contractors may also apply to activities that involve illegal aliens.


31 posted on 12/11/2016 11:38:52 AM PST by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: Menehune56

A win either way. The continued destruction of a liberal stronghold is not a problem.

CA can be the demonstration of how to kill off a once-great state.


32 posted on 12/11/2016 11:40:38 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Ride To The Sound Of The Guns)
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To: Menehune56

Let them split. The sooner they get to hell out of the Union the better. That way those who want to split from Kalipornia can split and stay in the union and the rest can go their own little way.

I am sure they will do well without all that Colorado River water.


33 posted on 12/11/2016 11:54:57 AM PST by crz
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To: Jim Robinson

Exactly on point!


34 posted on 12/11/2016 11:59:00 AM PST by DoughtyOne (jcon40, "Are we be coming into the age of Sanity?")
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To: fhayek

“Yeah, I get the politicians. But I asked what Californians see in this.”

They don’t see anything. They are safely ensconced in areas illegals do not go. Those who live with illegals get the same entitlements. Those in Conservative areas, have no say. Those who support illegals have the means to move somewhere else if the cookie tray tips over.


36 posted on 12/11/2016 12:03:02 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Too. Much. Winning.)
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To: Menehune56

The rats in California are going to get the government they deserve very soon.


37 posted on 12/11/2016 12:11:02 PM PST by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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To: Menehune56

The more static Trump gets from duh Dems the more he becomes embolden to whip them.


38 posted on 12/11/2016 12:13:16 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Menehune56

Like Wile E. Coyote chasing the Road Runner, Californians long ago ran off the precipice of sanity but have yet to discover that they’re headed for a major fall.


39 posted on 12/11/2016 12:27:25 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: dowcaet

Most liberals talk the talk but won’t walk the walk when it comes to living the regulated lifestyle of pure liberalism, so they flee to other states.

If California secedes then Trump will need to wall it off Mexican border style. East German border style would be even better.


40 posted on 12/11/2016 12:30:37 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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