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Thanks, Jill Stein: Michigan House passes voter-ID bill after vote-fraud hyperbole
Hotair ^ | 12/08/2016 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 12/08/2016 3:51:03 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Be careful what you wish for … you just might get it. Jill Stein didn’t get the recount she wanted in Michigan, but she did get the state to take vote-integrity issues seriously. Meeting in its lame-duck session, the state House of Representatives passed a tough voter-ID bill that includes $3 million for funding of free state identification and birth certificates after over 18,000 voters cast ballots without identification in the presidential election:

Michigan’s Republican-led House on Wednesday night approved a strict voter identification proposal over strenuous objections from Democrats who argued the plan could disenfranchise properly registered voters.

Michigan voters without photo identification could still cast a provisional ballot under the controversial legislation, but they would have to bring an ID to their local clerk’s office within 10 days of an election in order for their vote to count.

Current law requires a photo ID too, but also allows for voters to sign an affidavit under oath that attests to their identity and eligibility. The House might have had ample reason to wonder about abuse under that system when looking at the distribution of the practice. The Detroit News’ Jonathan Oostling reports that almost half of all such votes took place in heavily Democratic Wayne County, and almost 6,000 in the city of Detroit alone. That seems oddly disproportional, given that Wayne County accounted for just 16% of the state’s total.

It’s worth noting that Trump won Michigan by 10,704 votes, well below that total of non-ID ballots. That might tend to bolster Stein’s general complaint about potential voter fraud, but a recount wouldn’t be able to determine whether those ballots were cast fraudulently anyway. Ballots are cast secretly, so they do not contain any identifying marks. Once cast, a ballot from an ineligible voter is indistinguishable from legitimate ballots, and a recount would count them again, too. If the recount is about integrity and not the outcome, then Stein and her allies should be cheering this change in the statute, assuming it passes the state Senate.

What about that? Republicans have a supermajority in Michigan’s upper chamber, 27-11, so it would seem to be a slam-dunk that this change will get to Governor Rick Snyder’s desk. The GOP did lose a couple of members on the House vote, but they’ve got room to breathe in the Senate. Unless Snyder surprises Republicans with a veto, the bill should pass into law at the end of the session. About that, though

Gov. Rick Snyder of Michigan surprised his fellow Republicans on Tuesday, refusing to sign two bills that would have required voters to show photo identification before obtaining an absentee ballot. The vetoes are an election-year rarity for the party, which has pressed for tougher voter identification laws nationwide.

The bills were among three that Mr. Snyder returned to legislators after approving 11 other measures in a package of election changes based on proposals by Michigan’s secretary of state, Ruth Johnson. They were passed by lawmakers two weeks ago. “These reforms will make a good election system even better by adding appropriate safeguards and improving transparency,” Mr. Snyder said. He said the vetoed bills “could create voter confusion among absentee voters.”

Sara Wurfel, a spokeswoman for the governor, said that confusion had to do with a part of the bills that would have made voters check a citizenship box before receiving a ballot. Mr. Snyder suggested that verification of a person’s citizenship should be done only once, when a voter is first registered, she said.

That happened in 2012, and the citizenship checkbox requirement has been dropped. Snyder’s in his second term now too, and might feel more ready to implement better protection against voter fraud and ballot integrity — now that Stein’s paved the way for action. Thanks, Jill!


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: election; jillstein; michigan; recount; voterid
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1 posted on 12/08/2016 3:51:03 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Proof that there is no Arkancide Conspiracy is that Jill still breathes, right?


2 posted on 12/08/2016 3:54:54 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (HTTP 500 - Internal Server Error)
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To: SeekAndFind

Periodically confirming citizenship isn’t a burden at all for anyone.


3 posted on 12/08/2016 3:58:32 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Jill should get the Presidential Medal of Freedom for her tireless efforts to ensure the integrity of elections.


4 posted on 12/08/2016 4:01:04 PM PST by kanawa (The 1st job of a 'community organizer' is to disorganize the community)
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No one will be disenfranchised and the process integrity has been further bolstered.


5 posted on 12/08/2016 4:08:26 PM PST by Clutch Martin (Hot sauce aside, every culture has its pancake, just as every culture has its egg roll.)
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To: kanawa

Imagine she ends up being the catalyst for reforms in 20 states :)

And they name the law after her.

The Stein Voter ID Law


6 posted on 12/08/2016 4:09:53 PM PST by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, that going to kick the libs right in the groin.

Now the South can follow this and make it law.

Get it done Michigan.


7 posted on 12/08/2016 4:11:27 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: SeekAndFind

Re: voter-ID bill that includes $3 million for funding of free state identification and birth certificates after over 18,000 voters cast ballots without identification in the presidential election:

What am I missing? So there are all these people who are so poor that they have no State ID. But if they are so poor they can’t afford the ID, I would assume that they are on welfare and/or food stamps. But if they receive welfare and food stamps, they have to have ID. So it looks to me like the state would be providing ID for people who already have ID.


8 posted on 12/08/2016 4:11:43 PM PST by Nevadan
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To: dp0622

Ya beat me to it.


9 posted on 12/08/2016 4:12:29 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: Nevadan

Every single law written below the Mason-Dixon included a provision to come to your house and provide a free ID.

No sale.

Michigan is not under the same law and blasts that damn vote fraud right out the door.


10 posted on 12/08/2016 4:15:09 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: SeekAndFind
The Detroit News’ Jonathan Oostling reports that almost half of all such votes took place in heavily Democratic Wayne County, and almost 6,000 in the city of Detroit alone. That seems oddly disproportional, given that Wayne County accounted for just 16% of the state’s total.

Which only reaffirms my suspicions that Trump's win was caused by an overwhelming turnout vs the vote fraud industry.
11 posted on 12/08/2016 4:15:19 PM PST by farming pharmer (www.sterlingheightsreport.com)
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To: dp0622

The Raise-A-Stein Voter ID Law!


12 posted on 12/08/2016 4:17:36 PM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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Re: “Current law requires a photo ID too, but also allows for voters to sign an affidavit under oath that attests to their identity and eligibility.”

I will speculate that current law may also allow those 18,000 affidavits to be individually verified if a candidate or a state resident agrees to pay for the verification.

If the Republican Party really cares about voter fraud, we should pay to verify the identity of every non-ID voter in the country.

That would give us some very useful hard data about the percentage of non-ID voters who commit fraud, and where they commit it.

13 posted on 12/08/2016 4:20:20 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: dp0622
The Stein Voter ID Law

Beats heck out of the California law that allows you to register to vote at the DMV when you get your license. The left calls it the "Motor-Voter Law". Since there is nothing keeping a non-citizen (legal or otherwise) from getting a driver's license here, it should be called the "Auto Fraud-o Law".

14 posted on 12/08/2016 4:21:48 PM PST by ssaftler (January 20, 2017: Morning in America)
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To: zeestephen

Anybody with a tattoo, body piercing, or braiding should never get a FREE ID.


15 posted on 12/08/2016 4:24:42 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: Secret Agent Man

Dims never think things through. This is an unintended consequence of their actions.


16 posted on 12/08/2016 4:27:25 PM PST by Battle Axe (Repent: for the coming of the Lord is soon.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

I think they should make other changes in recount laws that allowed Jill to pull this; up the dollar amount per county, payment in full for any estimated costs above the per county amount.

Define the word aggrieved specifically.

And really come up with a way to not allow ballots to be run through twice in the machine and be allowed to be counted if the the log and machine numbers do not match.


17 posted on 12/08/2016 4:29:35 PM PST by Engedi
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s a good start, but in the next election, nothing is going to stop the heavily Democrat precincts from once again having 50 ballots in the box, but reporting 300 votes for the candidate. It is unlikely that another recount will be held, so the vote totals will stand.


18 posted on 12/08/2016 4:36:10 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: SeekAndFind

Congrats for ‘Jill The Shill’


19 posted on 12/08/2016 4:39:08 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: ladyjane

Anybody with a tattoo, body piercing, or braiding should never get a FREE ID.

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That’s nuts. I don’t have any of those things but I’m betting that there any, many FReepers that do.


20 posted on 12/08/2016 4:41:03 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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