Posted on 12/02/2016 8:39:42 AM PST by VR-21
Since Hillary has presumably gone to a home for used basilisks, we will perhaps hear less about gun control for a bit. As in, maybe, eight years.
The unending drive to outlaw firearms remains fascinating in various ways, first in that it represents a desire for conclusive abandonment of constitutional government. This is far along in other spheres–jury trial, speedy trial, jury of peers, declaration of war, warrantless search. Recently we have had a clear intention by a major party simply to ignore such constitutional provisions as it finds inconvenient.
Of course many of their voters couldn’t name two rights guaranteed by the First Amendment–surreys show that white college graduates cannot–and a substantial portion can’t read. Constitutional government requires an informed public. America doesn’t have one.
The orators profess to believe that banning guns will end murder. The actual effects of gun control are very different. This is a matter of observation, and thus has no place in political discussion. Just for the hell of it–it will make no difference–let’s actually look at the question.
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I just went down to the Probate Court today in my small town and renewed my license for the 5th time. $30 for renewal, a few questions, a pleasant talk with the clerk, and it will be in my mailbox in 7-10 days - just like last time (they get the cards done with pictures and holoprints by contract so it’s the processing time). No huhu at all.....took 15-20 minutes. The first two licenses were in Cobb County Georgia and they took MONTHS and they were assholes about it all the way through.
While I appreciate the author's effort, he doesn't know much about the AR-15. Basically wrong on all three counts. :-)
And contrary to courts banning “poll taxes” (demanding fees to exercise rights) & other related cases, you had to pay $30 and prove you weren’t guilty.
My renewal date snuck by me, so I was at risk of unwittingly violating a law which itself violates “shall not be infringed”, had to pay substantially more, and had to wait longer for my proof of permission to arrive - all because a few people arbitrarily set a time to expire my rights with only years-old notice. There’s no reason for the renewal, as data systems can easily notify the GWL (i.e.: CCW) handlers that a disqualifying event has occurred - not that there should be a GWL at all; Georgia should by all sanity be a Constitutional Carry state.
It’s all hogwash, akin to searching diligently under bright lights for the keys you know you lost in a dark alley.
Yes, I agree. But when the process is administered by real public servants as in my county, it is relatively painless, and the price for renewal isn’t exorbitant. Given what we have I have no other alternative to accept it. I can only remember the assholes in Cobb County as a comparison (and there is no comparison - they are complete assholes)
California has gone off the deep end regarding 2A infringements. We can’t even buy ammo without a background check, but new gun laws are about to explode as dems now have a super majority in our state legislature.
I shoot tennis balls with my AR-15, stuffed with Tannerite at 100 yards with open sights. Accurate enough for me.
Yes, Idaho is one my approved move-to list. I’ve been to Pocatello many times and like it.
>>Yes, Idaho is one my approved move-to list. I’ve been to Pocatello many times and like it.
I lived in Pocatello in the 80s. I would love to retire there.
What’s with all the ragging in the AR-15 for accuracy?
3” groups at 200 yards will ensure many in a rioting mob are late for dinner.
(Bushmaster ACR Enhanced w Eotech & 3.25 magnifier)
In Washington and New York, the Virulently Good who live in high-rises with security desks will react with horror at the thought of buying a rifle for self-defense. “How could the….?” “Why would anyone…?” “What is wrong with these…?” Their outlook rests on the belief that nothing really bad can happen.
Security to most of these people is a metal gate and a single security guard at a desk with a bunch of monitors. Which basically means one shot away from no security at all. "Secure facilities" generally aren't.
I heard a very interesting lecture from Romeo Dallaire, the UN commander in Rwanda during the massacre. Armed gangs were stalking the streets and the hallways with machetes, pulling people out into the street and hacking them to death. Those victims were unarmed. One rifle would have made all the difference. And lest the gun haters pretend that it could never happen in an American city, it already is.
“The orators profess to believe that banning guns will end murder. The actual effects of gun control are very different.”
Medieval England had an astonishing high rate of violent crime, including murder - all without guns.
I could go on and on, but evidence would only pile on to the scales to prove that without guns available, the strong would prey on the weak - not just individually, but also between societies. That’s not to say that such doesn’t happen today, with guns, just that it is less likely with guns than without.
In any case, regardless of whatever examples might be shown, I am not giving up any guns other than voluntarily selling or giving them away. Being Jewish, American and human, I will not UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES give up my right to defend myself, my family, my community or my country and its liberties. I will literally die to protect my right...but not before others die trying to eliminate that right.
“The [AR-15] is not accurate enough for serious marksmen,”
Yeah, it costs a bunch (because of the optics), but it shows that the problem with accuracy is NOT the rifle, it is the shooter. The optics here ensure that the rifleman can live up to the incredible accuracy of the gun, combined with match ammo.
Here’s 87% first-shot hit probability at 600 yards: http://www.tracking-point.com/m600/ Again, its the shooter and the optics at fault for poor accuracy, not the rifle if it is shooting good ammo.
These optics essentially take the place of years of practice shooting, because expert riflemen (and women) can pretty much duplicate this performance - but they REALLY have to be expert.
FYI, I don’t own any piece of Tracking Point, don’t work there, don’t know anyone connected with the business - I just think that they make a really kick-ass product (that I wish cost about 1/3 as much as it does).
During my hitch in the navy, I fell in love with your state, and I lament what has happened to it. With regard to your criminal state government's repression of peoples gun rights, I can only wish California a robust, thriving and outrageously successful black market in ammunition and anything else those heavy handed communist sons of bitches disapprove of.
“he doesn’t know much about the AR-15”
I got an AR because my Russian peasant AK slidefire and other AK are great on punch and quantity, but not so much on quality.
Hatred of the 2nd amendment is as much an article of religious faith for the progs as belief in “climate change”.
My only hope is some sort of relief from SCOTUS. We have no there redress.
They are plenty accurate for their intended purpose. However if I wanted to take someone out at a great distance and had the time to plan it the AR wouldn’t be my rifle of choice. Any old bolt hunting rifle of significant caliber with a scope would more than do the job in the hands of a good marksman.
I’ll hope along with you umgud. It’s funny, back when the whole country had the 55MPH speed limit, it was apparent even to this country’s squalid media that bad laws result in disrespect for the law. Disregard for the speed limit was so common that they did eventually do away with it (Carter was a bumbling, sanctimonious prig but in fairness to him he didn’t have the totalitarian impulse that modern Democrats have.). That’s the way I feel about things now. I see no reason to respect laws written by criminal megalomaniacs who have nothing but contempt for the country’s founding principles. They can all shove their gun laws.
” ‘The [AR-15] is not accurate enough for serious marksmen, ...’ “ [quoting Fred Reed’s column]
What qualifications Fred has earned, to know this, I’ve no idea. But pundits often make broad statements in very convincing tones, about topics they don’t know - except what their researchers feed them.
It would be not untruthful to say that the standard of precision required of the original AR-15 (Colt’s SP1), firing MIL STD 5.56mm M193 ball, in not terribly good: only about 4 to 6 minutes of angle max mean radius of circular error at 100 yd. This mean at least 50 percent of bullets must hit inside a circle 8 to 12 inches in diameter (radius = half of diameter).
That would be lackluster performance, by the standards of today’s high power competitors and varmint hunters. People who read a lot of gun magazines often think they are “serious marksmen,” and demand minute-of-angle groups out of the box with no practice and no load development (which would equate to 0.52 inch circular error at 100 yd).
“...an AR that has a 97% hit probability (within 5 inches of target) at 300 yards [offhand] ... 87% first-shot hit probability at 600 yards ... optics essentially take the place of years of practice shooting ...”
Tracking Point isn’t exactly doing false advertising, but they are puffing up their product, playing the odds, assuming buyers of their products (at prices near $6000.00, I’d rate them as somewhat higher than than the bargain-basement frankengun AR-15-type rifles the “average” buyer wants) don’t know which “advanced fighter-jet-like capabilities” modern combat aircraft do possess, and will be impressed by verbiage like that.
It’s not the rifle’s precision, nor Tracking Point’s optics. It’s the computational subsystems inside their devices, which contain target-velocity and ranging sensors, and a predicted-point-of-impact processor. Finding the range-to-impact and the target’s velocity, and knowing the exterior ballistics of the round to be fired, the little calculator inside the scope can estimate a point of air, which it puts onto the shooter’s display. All the shooter must do is superimpose the dots, hold, and squeeze.
The shooter still won’t score a hit, if they don’t hold and squeeze correctly. Which negates Ancesthntr’s assertion that “years of practice” will no longer be needed.
At no time is the bullet guided, after being fired. Tracking Point’s impressive claims are out of line here; modern fighters use missiles powered by rocket motors, that either home in on emissions from the target (as in infrared missiles like the AIM-9), or sense radar energy sent from the fighter that reflect from the target, and home on that (AIM-7). More advanced missiles communicate with the fire control systems on the fighter from which they are launched, to assure higher probability of hit at longer ranges. All such weapons have sensors, stabilizing subsystems, and means to correct the missile’s course (fins or gas pulse jets) in response to sensed aiming errors.
The last is what “guided” means. No such sensors nor course-correctors on a 5.56mm bullet.
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