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INFURIATING! VA admits hospital in Wisconsin may have infected 592 VETS with hepatitis and HIV
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Posted on 12/01/2016 9:49:28 AM PST by TigerClaws

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To: TigerClaws

Mama Grizzly will know how to handle this.


41 posted on 12/01/2016 11:40:19 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Bob
A similar tie-in is in place between Stanford and VA Palo Alto. The level of patient care here is extremely high. I’m blessed to have Palo Alto as my provider.

Yes,I'm not surprised.Another example is the VA Hospital in West Haven,CT which has such a relationship with Yale.I'd find it easy to believe that many VA Hospitals located near a medical school have them.

OTOH I fear that the ones in "the hinterlands" might be the ones who suffer in that way.

42 posted on 12/01/2016 11:42:09 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: PGR88

So veterans who were lucky enough not to be injured in war, but gave up years of their lives to serve in a punishing military environment, should have their meager medical benefits revoked?

Why do you continue to evade these questions?


43 posted on 12/01/2016 11:42:23 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: PGR88

So are you suggesting telling those in the military who gave up years of their lives to serve, no more benefits unless you’re injured in war?

This is a simple legitimate question. Why do you keep evading it?


44 posted on 12/01/2016 11:43:33 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ReformedBeckite

its the bureaucracy......its non medical people up the food chain making decisions only doctors should be making...THAT is the problem....


45 posted on 12/01/2016 11:47:57 AM PST by cherry
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To: dragnet2

I had surgery at Gunderson-Lutheran in La Crosse, WI in 1981. Top notch. 3 months later I got a letter informing me that tainted blood (HIV) had been discovered. I had to go in for a series of blood tests. Luckily, I was fine. But it was very frightening.


46 posted on 12/01/2016 11:48:30 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: wideminded

office space....you got to have the multitude of govt workers a place to shovel papers around...


47 posted on 12/01/2016 11:49:08 AM PST by cherry
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To: TigerClaws
This reminds me of the Kimberly Bergalis case about 25 years ago. Miss Bergalis was a lovely young woman who was infected with AIDS by her HIV-positive dentist.

So-called AIDS activists wanted desperately to keep the public from believing she'd been infected by the gay dentist. They peddled claims that Miss Bergalis was "promiscuous" and had acquired the infection from boyfriends. It wasn't true, but she had to endure the slander.

Ultimately it was proved by the CDC that the HIV strain that infected her was in fact the same strain carried by her dentist. It was also proved that he had infected several other patients.

48 posted on 12/01/2016 12:03:34 PM PST by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: dragnet2
So are you suggesting telling those in the military who gave up years of their lives to serve, no more benefits unless you’re injured in war?

No. The US government should provide free, unlimited benefits for everyone, for life. Regardless of the cost. And the Federal Government should run it all paid for by taxes and unlimited debt. "to each according to his needs" I think is the term.

49 posted on 12/01/2016 12:11:42 PM PST by PGR88
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To: reformedliberal

You’re lucky.


50 posted on 12/01/2016 12:56:30 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: PGR88

So are you suggesting telling those in the military who gave up years of their lives to serve, no more benefits unless you’re injured in war? Is this your way of making America great again?

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This was a simple legitimate question. That’s 5 times now you’ve evaded the questions. What a nasty piece of work you are.


51 posted on 12/01/2016 12:57:45 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: PGR88
I see the VA much like HUD housing and welfare.

Welfare? I'm curious, what did those on welfare do to earn those benefits?

52 posted on 12/01/2016 1:03:02 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: TigerClaws

Was this intentional?


53 posted on 12/01/2016 1:10:11 PM PST by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless America)
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To: pax_et_bonum
So they degenerate dentist had no morals or ethics. Probably a hilLIARy voter. The bum should be tried and executed.
54 posted on 12/01/2016 1:14:02 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)
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To: cherry; TigerClaws
office space....you got to have the multitude of govt workers a place to shovel papers around...

Good guess, but since this wasn't anywhere near DC, I'm thinking that no more than one floor could be office space. Some of my guesses were:

1. They built too much hospital for the area.
2. They don't have enough funding or staff to serve all the veterans who need care.
3. The hospital was built to serve a larger population of older veterans who have since died.
4. Veterans would rather not go there.

I guess some of the floors could also have been for outpatient care, which would only be happening in the daytime. But you would think in that case there would still be a few lights on at night rather than appearing totally shut down. Same for office space.

55 posted on 12/01/2016 2:21:30 PM PST by wideminded
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To: TigerClaws

Not all of it needs to be shut down. Some of the hospitals and medical clinics do a great job; some probably need to be closed. The claims part of the VA is so messed up it might not be possible to fix, might have to scrap that and start over or contract out. The whole VA system is not broken but some is broken beyond repair. It will take a lot of dedication just to sort it all out.


56 posted on 12/01/2016 5:34:47 PM PST by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: dragnet2

The dentist should be charged with First degree murder / attempted murder.


57 posted on 12/01/2016 5:56:42 PM PST by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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Ping


58 posted on 12/01/2016 5:59:24 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: PGR88

Pretty much all of your comments are off base, and by out of your lane I meant you have not a clue what you are talking about. Veterans and military benefits are unique and not comparable to anything else and to compare them to welfare in any way is an insult to everyone serving or ever has served.

Military service enlistment is a contract, and the government has and does agree to certain things in the contracts. Benefits to military and Veterans are part of a wages/benefit package. Many would not enlist or continue to serve if the entire package did not make it worth it to them.

And FYI VA care is not free to all veterans. Depending on whether a veteran is retired, service related medical or not, there is a priority system and for non-service connected based on income some veterans pay co-pays and some care is reimbursed by private insurance so you have no idea what you are talking about.

Whether one volunteers or was drafted has nothing to do with the wages/benefit package agreed upon. When there were draftees nearly all of them served honorably and many died for this country- once they put the uniform on it doesn’t matter whether they joined or were drafted they are all active duty while serving and later veterans.

When people start talking about taking this or that away or making drastic changes without knowing the issue they are essentially wanting the military/veterans to give up part of their wage/benefit package. Benefits to military and veterans are not part of a give-away program like government cheese.

How would you like to sign a contract with a company and have people who know nothing about your contract, working conditions, ETC. to just say certain things should just be taken away from you later? Yet that is what you are suggesting.

Some things may need to change, but the military must be paid, and people would have to be willing to pay them more in salary and retirement in order to balance loss of benefits or it would be impossible to recruit people like we need in the military.

You suggest veterans go out of the VA system for medical care and that is already being done with referrals to private care; so again you have no idea what you are talking about. Could we do away with the VA and refer them all out- possibly but one would have to be very careful doing a drastic change like that- it would have to be phased in and in some areas the VA care is outstanding so those veterans would be punished.

People like you want to have the best military in the world and claim to support them, yet you are willing to stab them in the back, and break a promise made to them in order to save a buck- in reality you probably wouldn’t save anything. There is likely waste/fraud in the system itself that can be fixed to save money, but you didn’t even mention things like that. You are comparing their benefits to welfare and wanting them to give them up.


59 posted on 12/01/2016 6:14:05 PM PST by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: Jet Jaguar
and it still has it's job... prolly got a raise too
60 posted on 12/01/2016 6:28:59 PM PST by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING! ich bin ein Deplorable...)
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