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Native Americans: Help Make America Great Again
Townhall.com ^ | November 28 | Katie Kiefer

Posted on 11/28/2016 5:15:36 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: grania
I suspect a lot of these pipelines go under country clubs and the estates of the elite who make these decisions (blue lines are gas transmission pipelines; red lines are hazardous liquid pipelines for crude oil, gasoline, etc.).


21 posted on 11/28/2016 5:45:49 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: dljordan

There are thousands of miles of pipelines along interstates. They are well off the highway and marked.


22 posted on 11/28/2016 5:46:19 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: grania

I don’t think so. If they’re “sacred lands” then they should be part of a reservation, no?


23 posted on 11/28/2016 5:46:39 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: grania

I believe the land at least where they’re camping is owned by the Army Corps of Engineers the pipeline is supposed to bypass Indian lands but because they used to live out with America you know what I’ll take a ground to them.


24 posted on 11/28/2016 5:47:48 AM PST by tinamina
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To: grania

The pipeline in question is not on “native lands”.

It is on the right of way of a natural gas pipeline that is already there.

This is just a green hissy fit against technology in general.


25 posted on 11/28/2016 5:48:28 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Kaslin

No Indians


26 posted on 11/28/2016 5:49:10 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Does America still have lots of safe closets?)
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To: grania

I read somewhere that the pipeline company held over 350 meetings with 55 tribes. Standing Rock Sioux were invited to each meeting and never showed up. The other tribes worked with the company to preserve sensitive and sacred ground. The oil company made several route changes to accommodate them. Standing Rock Sioux refused to consider anything.

I also suspect that there are significant legal payments made for land. Given that there are over 300,000 miles of pipeline in the USA and very few accidents, this is by far the safest and most efficient way to transport oil.

It looks like there were about 20 pipeline breaches last year. Most were caused by being hit by dredges or forklifts. As I read it, the Dakota pipeline is completely underground. As it crossed the Missouri river, it’s 92 feet below the riverbed.

Time for these people to give up and go get a job.


27 posted on 11/28/2016 5:59:51 AM PST by cyclotic (Democrats haven't been this mad since we freed their slaves)
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To: cyclotic

Time for these people to give up and go get a job....Buffet pays quite well, I understand.


28 posted on 11/28/2016 6:01:52 AM PST by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: marktwain

Thank you. If it’s on the right of way of a natural gas pipeline that’s already there, then there shouldn’t be a fuss. How come that isn’t a major part of the discussion supporting this pipeline?


29 posted on 11/28/2016 6:02:31 AM PST by grania
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To: grania

Because it doesn’t make for good “Headlines”.


30 posted on 11/28/2016 6:06:51 AM PST by Garvin (The Fourth Estate is The Fifth Column.)
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To: Safetgiver

that’s true.

Of course, since we found lots of oil in Texas, let’s cancel the project completely, tell the other tribes they’re not getting paid and hope for a good old fashioned range war.


31 posted on 11/28/2016 6:09:00 AM PST by cyclotic (Democrats haven't been this mad since we freed their slaves)
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To: Kaslin

“and stifles their heritage”

If your “heritage” is so flimsy a pipeline can “stifle” it, it is worthless anyway.


32 posted on 11/28/2016 6:11:58 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: grania

How come that isn’t a major part of the discussion supporting this pipeline?


Because the establishment media has an agenda, and that fact does not fit the agenda.

The actions of the establishment media during the last election should make clear that they are activists first, and reporters second or third.


33 posted on 11/28/2016 6:12:23 AM PST by marktwain
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To: grania

The Corp of Engineers website explains all of this. Each stretch that involved reservations involved meetings with many parties. There’s have been many hundreds of meetings as a result. This project was not done without consideration and careful planning.


34 posted on 11/28/2016 6:16:10 AM PST by HollyB
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To: cyclotic

FAQ: http://www.usace.army.mil/Dakota-Access-Pipeline/FAQs/

Good article with info: http://www.grandforksherald.com/opinion/op-ed-columns/4155469-viewpoint-dakota-access-pipeline-protesters-must-face-facts

http://cdm16021.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/ref/collection/p16021coll7/id/2801

http://www.usace.army.mil/Portals/2/Archambault_Chairman_Standing_Rock_Sioux_Tribe_Response_regarding_the_proposed_crossing_of_the_Dakota_Acess_Pipeline%20-%2014%20Nov%2016%20(002).pdf


35 posted on 11/28/2016 6:35:43 AM PST by HollyB
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To: grania

Perhaps you prefer a train track in the same place with hundreds of oil tanker cars thundering by instead of an open prairie with a pipeline underground.

Beside the fact that this pipeline is not crossing Indian land, they are just the nearest ethnic group to exploit protecting the lucrative rail shipping interests of Soros.

Yep, rent-a-rage politics again...


36 posted on 11/28/2016 6:36:02 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Alberta's Child

When I lived in Cheltenham Township, Montgomery County, PA, I had a gas pipeline running below the street in front of my house. They do go through some fairly well-off suburbs.


37 posted on 11/28/2016 6:40:41 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: American in Israel
Thank you. You're making sense. Isn't it beyond ironic that Soros is most probably behind the funding of a recount to assure there was no foreign influence? Why hasn't he been arrested as a war criminal?

You're talking sense. I'd much rather see oil in pipelines and people in trains.

38 posted on 11/28/2016 6:52:15 AM PST by grania
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To: HollyB

Thank you for the links.


39 posted on 11/28/2016 7:12:12 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: oldplayer

Sorry, I am not going to play civilizational tic tac toe with you.

My side won, and we have penicillin.

If your side won, we’d be eating tree bark as a palliative.

That said, I apologize if I have offended you.


40 posted on 11/28/2016 7:20:19 AM PST by T-Bone Texan (The time is now to form up into leaderless cells of 5 men or less.)
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