Posted on 11/27/2016 7:47:31 PM PST by blam
“Moreover, even if Trump/Pence are chosen, the whole process of being appointed by Congress, combined with a loss of the popular vote, would then cast a dark shadow over their administration.”
I doubt this theory. Since the recounts once they’re eventually completed would still show Trump ahead given his margin of victory in these states, the public would give this a big yawn. Congress appointing Trump the winner would be seen as justified by his winning the recount.
Actually, the law says a majority of EC votes cast.
Another poster on another thread deleted the 10 EC votes of WI, and Trump still wins a majority. Deleting PA and MI and recomputing the majority still has Trump winning.
The House of Representatives votes when ‘conflicting’ sets of EC votes are submitted.
My take is Soros’ IT people screwed up somehow and Stein is there to find out how it happened.
Soros’ IT Group controls the IP software for most of the electronic voting machines and election systems including GEMS inside the United States. I was posting feverishly about the threat his IT people posed and was relieved to see they couldn’t pull it off.
Background on Soros and elections is that he once owned Smartmatic which manufactured the infamous Diebold machines. He sold recently Smartmatic to Dominion which is even larger in the electronic voting machine space. Both Smartmatic and Dominion are large donors to Clinton.
But here’s the kicker. Soros runs a hedge fund out of a tax haven in the Caribbean that has a large trading group with lots of IT people. When Soros sold Smartmatic to Dominion, the deal was that Soros’ IT people would retain and control all of the IP for the machines and systems, meaning the software.
The pertinent question is why the hell this guy is allowed to have any access to US voting systems?
From my research, the election officials don’t know what they are dealing with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t75xvZ3osFg
So my take is Stein is there to find out what happened to the planned Soros steal for Clinton.
Anytime the Democrates do something that makes no sense. Its usually a distraction to either shift or gain public attention. Pizza is a trending topic right now!
I beli be there aren’t enough D state legislators to deny a quorum. And it would be rotten for the D national party, it would completely delegitimize the entire operation politically anyway.
Wars have been started for far less. If this election is hijacked by the entrenched political class that runs both parties a revolution will ensue.
That is also plausible. But, why did Stein run and mainly take votes from Hillary?
Who give a flying fig?
They are lying and purposely distorting the numbers.
2,279,543 DJT
2,268,839 HRC
10,704 The vote Difference....right? Well, heck to the NO!!!
172,136 G Johnson
51,463 J. Stein
Hey, what happens when you count the votes from the other candidates?
Well you get: 10,704 + 172,136 + 51,463 = Wait for it!!!.....Uhm...The real vote difference is...234,303!!!
That’s right, yuh pathetic losers. There is total vote difference of 234,303 That were NOT CAST for Hillary.
There is no way to overcome that Yuge number and there is no cause for a recount.
Now go away.
Besides, I think you’ve already missed a deadline or two and this news cycle is now stale
I don't think so. I think it's the Democrats who would suffer politically because of Hillary's involvement and the resulting public outrage.
It would be one thing if there were a recount showing a problem with the votes. But absent that because of failure to complete the recount, there would be no plausible claim that Trump/Pence weren't the true winners of the election and all the electoral votes -- even those disqualified due to missing the recount deadline.
I think that the resulting public perception would be that Hillary, the Democrats and George Soros saught to create confusion for no valid reason and with no cause.
I think therefore that what's left of the Democrat Party would suffer greatly in the 2018 election and beyond due to public outrage and Democrat voter discouragement.
What's appalling is that if this succeeds, it shows that ONE person with enough money has the ability to throw the whole nation into chaos.
I thought Michigan had already recounted?
Michigan already had all counties recount their votes. They HAVE been recounted. They need to tell Stein the votes were already recounted a second time. Trump still won.
That’s an interesting theory.
Yeah, it's conspiracy stuff, but how interesting those are the 3 states that Hillary wants to get her paws on.
this is nothing more than an investment in the future the same way a college degree is an investment.
They KNOW they aren’t going to change the results. Trump will be sworn in. BUT, what better way to collect vast amounts of money and power agitation to the tune of “ILLEGITIMATE INSTALLED PRESIDENT.” They did it for 8 years with Bush. But this time they have shock troops (black bloc anarchists), foot soldiers (BLM), and useful cannon fodder (snowflake crybullies), led by extremely wealthy “community organizers.” Democrats dare not accept the reults and be the loyal opposition. They need the people angry and the coffers filled. How much is Obama going to make with 8 years of riots and agitation? BILLIONS!
Stein got less than 1% of the vote and no electoral votes, they should tell her she has no standing and to go pound sand.
She has no shot at winning anything, ever.
all of the above?
Maybe the fix was in, and Hillary wants to find the phony votes. Criminals always return to the scene of the crime, as they used to say on TV shows.
The possible reason:
“One theory is that Stein is simply hoping to disrupt the electoral college process to push the 2016 election into the hands Congress while drawing the legitimacy of Trump’s presidency into question.
As Edward Foley, an expert in election law at Moritz College of Law at Ohio State University, pointed out to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, electors from around the country have to meet by December 19th to cast their electoral college votes. To the extent recounts in WI, MI and PA have not been completed by that time, which experts assign a high probability that they will not, there is a chance that the electoral votes from those three states wouldn’t be counted leaving neither candidate with the required electoral votes to win the presidency (electoral count would be Trump 260 versus Hillary 232).
If the electoral college process fails to select a President then the election would be left in the hands of Congress to decide. Given that the Senate and House are both controlled by Republicans, in theory they would then choose Trump/Pence, though in this election cycle nothing is a certainty. Moreover, even if Trump/Pence are chosen, the whole process of being appointed by Congress, combined with a loss of the popular vote, would then cast a dark shadow over their administration.
Wisconsin’s recount will likely begin late next week, once the state has tallied a cost estimate and received payment from Stein’s campaign, said Michael Haas, administrator of the Wisconsin Elections Commission.
Political scientist Barry Burden, the director of the Elections Research Center at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, said it would be extremely difficult to complete the recount on time.
“You may potentially have the state electoral votes at stake if it doesn’t get done by then,” said Haas.
A lawyer with Stein’s campaign has said it wants the recount done by hand. That would take longer and require a judge’s order, Haas said.
Perhaps the most important deadline is Dec. 19, when electors around the country must meet to cast their Electoral College votes, said Edward Foley, an expert in election law at Moritz College of Law at Ohio State University.
“That is a hard deadline and if a state were to miss that deadline, it would be technically in jeopardy of not having its electoral votes counted,” he said.
Of course, if this theory is even partially true then it’s extremely disturbing on a variety of levels. That a person with absolutely no standing. in terms of personal damages, and no presentation of credible evidence of wrongdoing could unilaterally disrupt a presidential election is not only a failure of Stein’s personal character but it’s a failure of our election rules and procedures that such reckless behavior would be permitted.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3498984/posts?page=22#22
Thanks hostage for this info; ping to you, lucyt!
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