Posted on 11/20/2016 6:51:09 AM PST by pinochet
Correction, Kennedy is not a flaming lib, but my point still stands. Replacing flaming libs Ginsberg and Breyer, as well as left of center Kennedy with constitutional conservatives, does stack the court in our favor and would produce years of rulings on par with the intent of the Constitution.
That was my poing.
This isn’t an abortion discussion. The OP is asking a question about SCOTUS. Nobody here seems to be answering that question but me.
Lets give the OP a little help answering his question.
I understand that, and if it were up to me it would be outright banned.
But I have to manage expectations; half the country doesn’t think the same way.
Thank you and I believe you’re right. Understanding and reinstating the Constitution as the Supreme Law of the Land against the feds is probably America’s greatest political challenge in the coming years because the Constitution is the only legal bulwark of freedom against the unconstitutional acts of the feds which by definition is tyranny.
That is why I have a website, not quite finished, for this very reason.
https://sonsofconstitutionalliberty.com/
Check it out. Let me know what you think.
I have more on my website which is not quite finished.
https://sonsofconstitutionalliberty.com/
Check it out. Let me know what you think.
I know where babies come from. Pretty near everybody does. Nobody but a mentally impaired person can fail to see the possible consequences of letting somebody insert 100 million live spermatozoa up their genital tract.
If you like, we could discuss the concept of "strict liability"
How about a SCOTUS that kicks that decision out of the penumbra and puts it in the Legislature where it belongs.
Probably no.
If the Trump administration appoints 2 conservative Supreme Court judges, would that be enough to overturn Roe v Wade?
Possibly yes.
Your two questions are not the same, if Roe v Wade were over turned, then the only thing that happens is that the issue returns to the states where it should have been left.
It would be come a patchwork with some states being very liberal with allowing abortions and some restricting them greatly.
I will go out on a limb and predict that none will outlaw them completely.
A true "outlawing" of abortion will come when the Constitution includes a amendment defining what a "person" is and the unborn begin to fall under the "Due process" clause in the Fifth Amendment.
Every campaign toward an incremental end helps to educate the electorate.
“maybe ... get the gov to stop paying for them.” Also,
stopping the selling of BABY BODY PARTS for profit by
these quiche-eating ghouls. When big $$$$$$$ gets hold of
anything, it gets CRAZY. Even murdering full-term babies
& selling their organs for cash while bartering over salads
and wine for “product” compensation to add to government
subsidies. IF BLACK PEOPLE ever catch on to MARGARET
SANGER’S genocidal plans; they will likely dig her up and
beat her dead body black and blue.
Actually, Plessy was NOT overturned by Brown, and the justices explicitly said so in their ruling.
The basis for their ruling was not equal protection, nor privileges and immunities.
The basis was "new discoveries in the social sciences" that (allegedly) found that CHILDREN were uniquely harmed by separation because in gave them a "badge of inferiority" which caused permanent harm.
Plessy was rendered moot by the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which (if constitutional) made the rights of the State of Louisiana protected by Plessy null and void.
Thanks Jim, I will!
The Supreme Court did not "make abortion legal", since they have no such power.
They enjoined the enforcement of the laws of all 50 states governing abortion (which varied quite a bit among themselves) on basically invented grounds.
I agree and you are right.
I just don’t think the Court will declare it murder just yet. It might happen that they do, but it seems more likely they will reverse Roe v. Wade as covered by the 4th Amendment.
Such a ruling would then hand it back to the states.
It’s doubtful that the Supreme Court would uphold a ban or severe restrictions on first trimester abortions.
Let’s be clear, regardless the opinions of the extremists on the SC, abortion is not a constitutional right. Constitutional rights must apply to everybody irrespective of any differences. As there is currently NO way for about half the population to exercise this “right” (men) it is a fools argument to position otherwise.
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THE CONSTITUTION GIVES NO AUTHORITY TO THE FEDS REGARDING ABORTION
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Nor, IMO, it is a STATE issue: “...certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness...”. Just the opposite (”...That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men...”
Sex (’non-consensual’ is another topic of discussion/debate) begets the repercussion of said action, be that disease\pregnancy\etc.
The child(ren) thereof, bestowed the *ONLY* Right of that moment: Life.
It is not up to the parent(s), let alone govt, to allow another murder, be that convenience (the ‘health’ issue, rare as it might be...debate, another time) or any other ‘reason’.
Course, we have fallen into pseudo-Banana-Republic territory that the talk is rather moot. Aside from troops in homes, there is little left of the Constitution, that I can think of at the moment, in actual practice.
Understood. It’s up to you to make it happen.
Well, the moral issues you bring up as true as they may be, are NO business of the feds who are LIMITED by the Constitution. It is up to the states, sovereign outside the Constitution, and the people of those states to deal with those issues.
People get so confused - it is the feds who have illegally and unconstitutionally taken the Bible and prayer out of the schools, have force immorality into the schools, forced the states to overturn their anti-abortion laws. The illegal and unconstitutional Feds are the main purveyors of morality in our country.
Throwing up you hands about the erosion of the Constitution isn’t helpful. Fight back by getting yourself, others and your state to align with the Ninth and Tenth Amendments of the Constitution and RESIST and NULLIFY unconstitutional federal acts which by definition are acts of tyranny.
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