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It's time to kill the Electoral College
The Week ^ | November 16, 2016 | Paul Waldman

Posted on 11/16/2016 11:28:17 AM PST by C19fan

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On her way out the door, Barbara “Ma’am” Boxer has filed a bill to amend the constitution to eliminate the electoral college.


21 posted on 11/16/2016 11:40:34 AM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: C19fan

The left would not stop at aborting the EC. They would kill it retroactively so the 2016 results don’t count.


22 posted on 11/16/2016 11:41:07 AM PST by proust (Trump / Pence 2016!)
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To: Gaffer

Please! Not this mob rule crap again........There are 50 states in this UNION

Larger states would run rough shod over us little guys just like large cities force their way and consume tax monies form urban areas. Democracy is basically a thug government that is why they chose a republican form of government. We had been approaching a THUGOCRACY, a mob takeover. Lets not go back.


23 posted on 11/16/2016 11:42:44 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: C19fan
The LEFTists are still Crying.

Tace reaity!

The WITCH LOST!

24 posted on 11/16/2016 11:44:33 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else need s said?)
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To: mountainlion

It isn’t just Larger states in area....it’s the populations and crammed infestations of large cities and surrounding.


25 posted on 11/16/2016 11:44:43 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: C19fan

Thought experiment: dissolve the union for a day. Now try to reunite it. Convince residents in lower population states that it’s in their interest to allow states like New York and California to vote against their interests over and over again.


26 posted on 11/16/2016 11:45:02 AM PST by rightwingcrazy ("We will not tolerate those who are intolerant of the intolerant.")
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To: C19fan

Democrats lose one, and they’re calling for scrapping the system of constitutional government that’s been one of the Greatest Success Stories of the past two hundred fifty years.

It’s an utterly moronic notion and should be shunned.


27 posted on 11/16/2016 11:45:13 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Dilbert San Diego

well there you go again, muddying up the story with facts. lol


28 posted on 11/16/2016 11:47:21 AM PST by V_TWIN
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To: LostInBayport

I was checking on the Congress.gov site and there is no language for Boxer’s amendment; S.J.Res.41. So far it looks like a pure publicity stunt.


29 posted on 11/16/2016 11:47:35 AM PST by C19fan
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To: Gaffer
It isn’t just Larger states in area....it’s the populations and crammed infestations of large cities and surrounding.

Too true. Thanks for the clarification.

30 posted on 11/16/2016 11:50:22 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: C19fan

NOPE!

KYPD


31 posted on 11/16/2016 11:52:03 AM PST by petro45acp (" It IS About Islam: exposing the truth about ISIS, Al Qaeda, Iran, and the caliphate" by Glenn Beck)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Heh heh....

“...vapidity...”

Nice!

KYPD


32 posted on 11/16/2016 11:55:41 AM PST by petro45acp (" It IS About Islam: exposing the truth about ISIS, Al Qaeda, Iran, and the caliphate" by Glenn Beck)
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To: C19fan
In your dreams Paul. But they are trying. Here's their way without a constitutional amendment:

There is another way, though. Ten states plus Washington, D.C., have enacted legislation that could lead to a system that leaves the Electoral College intact but ensures that it deliver the presidency to the popular vote winner. This national compact stipulates that as soon as states comprising a majority of the Electoral College — 270 votes — sign on, each will award its electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote. The Constitution allows states to allocate their electors as they choose — the winner-take-all system is not in the Constitution, and Maine and Nebraska have already abandoned it, choosing to split their electoral votes based on who wins in each congressional district.

So far, only blue states have signed on to the plan — Maryland was the first, and, yes, we endorsed the idea then, not just now that the candidate we supported, Hillary Clinton, has won the popular vote but lost the Electoral College. But the idea has gotten some traction in places like Oklahoma, a state so red that no presidential candidate pays it any attention, and in some swing states, including Colorado and Nevada. The 11 jurisdictions that have signed on total 165 electoral votes, nearly two-thirds of the necessary total.

33 posted on 11/16/2016 12:01:38 PM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: b4its2late

Isn’t such a compact or treaty among some states unconstitutional?


34 posted on 11/16/2016 12:03:45 PM PST by Ted Grant
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To: C19fan

The States vote for President, not the citizens.


35 posted on 11/16/2016 12:07:10 PM PST by yuleeyahoo (Those are my principles, and if you do not like them...well I have others. - Groucho Marx)
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To: b4its2late
Compacts require Congressional approval, and the National Popular Vote compact has not gotten Congressional approval. They say they don't need it, so it's an area that's ripe for a court.

That said, if liberals were really sincere in this movement, they don't have to wait for a compact of 270 EV states to form; they could have their own state unilaterally pass legislation to award their own state's Electoral College votes to the national popular vote winner now without waiting for other states. No Congressional approval is necessary for a state to act alone on this.

Some states could lead by example now, and just do it... but they won't...

-PJ

36 posted on 11/16/2016 12:11:20 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: C19fan

LOL, even Slate has articles defending the EC!


37 posted on 11/16/2016 12:13:58 PM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: C19fan

Well, if’n you don’t like the electoral college, perhaps there should be a “One Vote per COUNTY” system...


38 posted on 11/16/2016 12:26:03 PM PST by Don W ( When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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Wrong, dummy. Why would three fourths of the states, required to change the Constitution, vote for less power to choose our leaders? We are not stupid like Democrats are.


39 posted on 11/16/2016 12:31:52 PM PST by txrefugee
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If we get rid of the electoral college, then we should get rid of the Senate at the same time. Let’s see that amendment get passed.


40 posted on 11/16/2016 12:46:13 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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