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Mumps Outbreak Expands at SUNY New Paltz; 13 Cases Reported (all were vaccinated)
nbcnewyork ^ | November 11, 2016

Posted on 11/12/2016 7:12:46 AM PST by NYer

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To: NYer

My youngest was not vaccinated until age 3-1/2.

Probably would have skipped most of them but my ex-, who had seemed equally against vaccination during the time we were married, did a 180 during the child custody battle. There are legal strategies to preserve philosophical vaccine exemptions (see: Alan Phillips, JD) but I am not sure how effective they are.

Any vaccination before age 3 is risky - blood-brain barrier development is the primary issue I think. If the child is breastfed and fed a proper diet free of trash and sugar, he should for the most part have no issue recovering from these illnesses during this time.

I do mostly alternative medicine and the MD who I consult with annually never vaccinated his youngest.


61 posted on 11/12/2016 2:31:58 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: exDemMom

“Infectious diseases are killers, and can leave survivors profoundly impaired. This is why vaccines were invented, and why they remain an integral part of health management.”

The death rates from “vaccine-preventable” diseases was down about 90-95% on average before vaccination even started.

“There is NO evidence that vaccines cause any sort of neurological problem. “

The Poling family would differ, as would the federal vaccine Court, as do the vaccine product inserts themselves.

That scumbag Paul Offit, who is on your side, once said that it was safe to administer 10,000 vaccines to an infant in one doctor visit. Do you agree with him? What is the safe dose of aluminum for a 7LB baby? And mercury? And aborted fetal tissue?

Looking forward to the day when Dr Wakefield gets his MD license reinstated.


62 posted on 11/12/2016 2:41:44 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: GailA; Auntie Mame; Yaelle; NC_Gravely; HiTech RedNeck
16 yr old healthy non sexually active grand daughter was given Gardasil by her uninformed mom on Pediatrician’s recommendation. She now has Fibromyalgia and Rheumatoid Arthritis which leads to a wheel chair. Promising Ribbon Gymnast, in to all kinds of sports and activities. Now there are days she can barely go to school. And the drugs for both are HORRID side effect riddled killers. Japan and Spain have banned Gardasil.

Have heard this from others, as well. I have a friend who works in the pharmaceutical industry and is very pro vaccine. When I began to discuss this more in depth, he recalled a co-worker who was vaccinated in preparation for a business trip to Africa. She developed Ms Gullain Barre Syndrome from the vaccination. She never fully recovered.

Go back to the DPT shots, my boys reacted to the whooping cough part, they ended up taking half doses or their leg the shot was given in would paralyze for several weeks.

The pertussis vaccine is very neurotoxic and is used in the laboratory to produce brain lesions in lab animals for study. But if our child develops brain problems after a DPT vaccination, our doctor will tell us it is coincidence or genetic. Vaccinations have been known to increase the demyelination, a process related to many neurologic diseases and MS is a demyelination disease. Myelin is designed to protect the outer coating of neurons, much like the plastic outer coating over an electrical wire. When this myelin is damaged, neurological disorders, such as, MS, paralysis, or ALS, will result. (autism is a result of demyelination disorder.) The nerves are short-circuited and do not function normally.

Vaccines and Neurological Damage

63 posted on 11/12/2016 2:46:43 PM PST by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: SecAmndmt
Any vaccination before age 3 is risky - blood-brain barrier development is the primary issue I think. If the child is breastfed and fed a proper diet free of trash and sugar, he should for the most part have no issue recovering from these illnesses during this time.

Not to mention worthless as babies don't start developing IgG antibodies until 12-18 months.

Vaccination Schedule for Children

The latest immunization schedule recommended for kids by the Centers for Disease Control, American Academy of Pediatrics, and Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, states that by the time children in the United States start kindergarten, they will get:

3 doses of the hepatitis B vaccine
2 or 3 doses of the oral rotavirus vaccine (Rotarix or Rotateq)
5 doses of the DTaP vaccine
3 or 4 doses of the Hib vaccine
4 doses of the Prevnar 13 vaccine
4 doses of the polio vaccine
2 doses of the MMR vaccine
2 doses of the chicken pox vaccine (Varivax)
2 doses of the hepatitis A vaccine
yearly flu vaccines, available as a nasal spray once kids are at least 2 years old

Does this statistic not create a "hmmmmmm" moment for anyone?

64 posted on 11/12/2016 2:54:02 PM PST by Shethink13
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To: NC_Gravely; Auntie Mame; Yaelle; HiTech RedNeck
Thank you very much for those links!! A very dear friend also referred me to Children of Life for God.

So the supreme irony here is that the children are now being given a human-fetal-tissue vaccine in MMR which probably induces autism, at the very same time that the illegal alien wave is introducing strains of the Mumps which are resistant to the vaccine.

From the link I posted in my previous response:

Some 40-50 years ago children were not vaccinated until they were ready for the first grade at age 6. Neurological disorders were very uncommon then. Today, children are vaccinated at birth for HiB and begin their long vaccination-journey at 2 months of age, before the blood brain barrier is fully developed. A review of the medical literature around the world will turn up many articles linking vaccinations with many neurological disorders. Before the 1940s, autism was extremely rare or unheard of. Then in the mid-1940s we began a massive vaccination programs and autism was "born". At first, it only occurred in the children of wealthy parents, since vaccinations were not free or government sponsored like today. Later autism became a disease of all classes (with government-sponsored vaccine programs).

"The strongest link was between measles virus antibodies and anti-MBP, suggesting that exposure to the measles virus may cause the immune systems of children with autism to attack myelin," Singh said. Children with autism produce anti-bodies against their own brain, making autism an auto-immune condition. "Singh compiled a nonscientific, anecdotal survey of 88 autistic children whose families have contacted him. Of those, 51 percent said symptoms of autism began shortly after the MMR vaccination, and 36 percent said the problems started days after the DPT shot." Anecdotal evidence over-whelmingly points to vaccines as causing autism. The connect between autism and vaccinations can not be denied.

One of the major culprits used to move the vaccine to its intended target, is aluminum. This substance, when mixed with an antigen from a virus or bacteria, elicits a greater inflammatory immune response and theoretically a higher response of protective antibodies. This goes against the infant's natural response. As noted by Dr. Suzanne Humphries, "babies are programmed to be anti-inflammatory," meaning the placenta and breast milk help "program" the child to maintain a non-inflamed state.

In the 1970s, American children got only four aluminum-containing vaccines within the first 18 months of life. Now, they typically receive 17. In the U.S., babies end up getting up to 4,925 micrograms (mcg) of aluminum within the first 18 months of life, and an additional 170 to 625 mcg by the age of 6. Today, American children end up getting about 6,150 mcg of aluminum if they get all of the recommended vaccines on the childhood vaccine schedule.

65 posted on 11/12/2016 3:13:16 PM PST by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: SecAmndmt
Any vaccination before age 3 is risky - blood-brain barrier development is the primary issue I think.

YES!!! From all that I have researched and read, the primary culprit is aluminum.

Once the aluminum is injected into your body, immune cells called macrophages rush in and gobble up the aluminum. They also eat the antigen. (This is by design, because that's how the vaccine "works.") However, here's the problem that vaccine makers ignore. Macrophages can carry whatever they've gobbled up right through the blood brain barrier, into your brain. And so like Trojan horses, they facilitate the penetration of aluminum into the brain.

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According to Humphries, even though we're told that aluminum is safe, and vaccine aluminum is harmless, research has proven that vaccine aluminum does end up in the brain. Aluminum nanoparticles have even been photographed in macrophages inside the brain, after having been injected into muscle.

How Aluminum in Vaccines Affects Your Health

I do mostly alternative medicine and the MD who I consult with annually never vaccinated his youngest.

THANK YOU!! My daughter and the baby have an appointment later this month with a holistic family practitioner who accepts patients, regardless of vaccine status. She believes in treating the whole person, delivering personalized attention and individual care.

My granddaughter is a very healthy and happy baby. On the day of our visit to the pediatrician, we waited in the "well" room. Suddenly, in the distance, I heard a high pitched scream that did not stop. It grew louder and louder as the family made its way down the hall. While none of us enjoys a shot, the result is normally a whimper or cry that is soon qualmed. But that was not the case. This tiny baby (2 months) wailed in such an unnatural high pitch. There was no consoling him/her. I looked down at my 2 month granddaughter and her smile turned into one of concern, staring up at me for comfort. At that moment, I recalled something I had read.

It is "normal" to be afraid of shots. But what they are missing is the diagnosis of overt neuropathy, encephalitis or brain dysfunction, because high pitched crying is not normal. Brain damage from vaccines is epidemic and yet, doctors are slow to diagnose neurological disorders (in US) when vaccinations are at stake but we see many citations linking changes (for the worse) after vaccinations are given.

Thank you again for your post and ping!

66 posted on 11/12/2016 4:08:33 PM PST by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: NC_Gravely

why hep b, don’t people who are drug addicts and share needles get that?


67 posted on 11/12/2016 5:21:16 PM PST by Coleus (For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.)
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To: NYer

When my kids were little, they were vaccinated because I trusted the doctors. Not sure what I would do if I had to do it over again.

I don’t have a strong absolute opinion for or against, because I can see arguments on both sides, but I will say this:

DO NOT get a boatload of vaccinations all at once. If you do decide to vaccinate, don’t get the multi-disease versions. Get one at a time and spread them out over time.


68 posted on 11/12/2016 5:21:17 PM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: haffast

Where I live, they have signs in the grocery store! (I think you can get them there.)


69 posted on 11/12/2016 5:23:11 PM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: SecAmndmt
First of all, I suggest you ponder what might be the motives behind the anti-vax propagandists. Keep in mind that the left loves death, always wants more people to die, and believes that the world is grossly overpopulated. And then ask yourself why these death-lovers want you to not vaccinate your children.

The death rates from “vaccine-preventable” diseases was down about 90-95% on average before vaccination even started.

The fact that modern medicine can save the lives of people who would have died without medical treatment does not mean that getting those deadly diseases is preferable to preventing them in the first place. Why subject a child to a miserable illness and potential life-long disability or death just because some fear-monger (who wants more kids to die) said a bunch of scary stuff about vaccines?

The Poling family would differ, as would the federal vaccine Court, as do the vaccine product inserts themselves.

Hannah Poling's condition was a result of a rare genetic defect that she has that would have caused her to suffer brain damage from *any* febrile illness. She has a mitochondrial abnormality that leaves her extremely susceptible to oxidative damage from any condition that causes energy needs to increase, like a fever. Around one in ten thousand children do develop a fever following the measles vaccine. In her case, unfortunately, the mitochondria were not able to keep up with the increased metabolic needs caused by the immune system's response to the vaccine, and oxidative brain damage resulted. Children with her condition usually show evidence of brain damage between ages 2 and 3. They are recommended to be especially vigilant about taking vaccines, because they are so susceptible to injuries resulting from infectious disease. Blaming the measles vaccine for her brain damage is like blaming the color of a car for the broken bones you suffered when the car hit you.

That scumbag Paul Offit, who is on your side, once said that it was safe to administer 10,000 vaccines to an infant in one doctor visit. Do you agree with him? What is the safe dose of aluminum for a 7LB baby? And mercury? And aborted fetal tissue?

A man who has saved millions of lives and permanent disabilities is a scumbag? Tell me, do you also celebrate the work of abortionists? Of course it would be safe to administer 10,000 vaccines in a single doctor visit--if it weren't for the fact that most of them are delivered through needles, and that many needle pricks in one visit would probably cause quite a bit of damage. The vaccines themselves would not. As I have already pointed out, even if your child received every recommended vaccine during a single doctor visit, the number of antigenic proteins contained in all of those vaccines combined is insignificant next to the number of antigens your kid ingests every time he shoves his dirty little fist into his mouth.

Do you ever wrap food in aluminum foil? If so, then you get a higher dose of aluminum from that food than is contained in any vaccine. If you eat a tuna sandwich, you get far more mercury than is contained in any thiomersal preserved vaccine. You get larger doses of aluminum and mercury in your food every day--why worry about a tiny dose of aluminum or mercury in a vaccine that you might receive three times in a lifetime?

Oh, and there is no fetal tissue in any vaccines.

Looking forward to the day when Dr Wakefield gets his MD license reinstated.

That is extremely unlikely. In the course of his fake research, he mistreated human subjects in a way that is as egregious as the infamous Tuskegee experiments. No review board would have ever condoned his "study" if he had gone through the proper channels to have his study approved. He mistreated children, lied about what he did, and he was motivated by greed. His license was very correctly pulled, since he should not be allowed near patients ever again.

70 posted on 11/12/2016 6:17:10 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Coleus
I said MAYBE Hep B.
 
If you live in a Lily-White Eisenhower-era Father-Knows-Best gated community, with 24x7 coverage at the guard tower, and zero undesirables within your compound, then chances are your child won't need it.
 
On the other hand, if, say, your child goes to a dentist who performs a lot of bloody dental surgeries on illegal aliens, and if the sterilization of the dental instruments is a little sub-par, then maybe your child should get Hep B.
 

71 posted on 11/12/2016 6:20:50 PM PST by NC_Gravely
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To: NYer
ALL vaccines are immune suppressing, meaning they affect immune function for a period of time and can make some people more susceptible to coming down with a viral or bacterial infection.. The chemicals, adjuvants, lab altered viruses and bacteria and foreign DNA/RNA from animal and human cell substrates in the vaccines may compromise immune system function and depress immunity -- that is the trade-off you are risking.

Immune-suppressing? Seriously?

Vaccines are one of the most natural medical interventions that exist. Far from suppressing your immune system, they "teach" the immune system to recognize deadly pathogens and destroy them before they have a chance to cause disease.

Thanks to vaccines, most children actually survive to adulthood. And the average lifespan has doubled from what it was in the pre-vaccine days.

72 posted on 11/12/2016 6:23:22 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

I’m not an anti-vaxer, but I am curious: Does contracting the mumps confer better/longer immunity than the vaccine provides?


73 posted on 11/12/2016 6:32:08 PM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: mewzilla
I’m not an anti-vaxer, but I am curious: Does contracting the mumps confer better/longer immunity than the vaccine provides?

I don't know about the mumps specifically, but in some cases, the disease actually does cause longer-lasting immunity than the vaccine. In other cases, that dynamic is switched. I think that infection with mumps or two doses of mumps vaccine both confer lifelong immunity.

74 posted on 11/12/2016 6:43:47 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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Thanks! Just ran across this, and I’d be interested to see your take on it if you’re inclined :)

Mumps Outbreak at a University and Recommendation for a Third Dose of Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccine — Illinois, 2015–2016
Weekly / July 29, 2016 / 65(29);731–734

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/65/wr/mm6529a2.htm


75 posted on 11/12/2016 6:54:40 PM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: exDemMom

What I haven’t seen any info on: Have any folks who had the disease as kids contracted it again. I’m wondering if getting the mumps as a kid confers an immunity that better protects from new strains.


76 posted on 11/12/2016 6:58:13 PM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: NYer

I believe this was in 2007.


77 posted on 11/12/2016 7:06:41 PM PST by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Vaccinated? Was the protocol impaired in some fashion? IE boosters not given or delayed etc. ?


78 posted on 11/12/2016 7:28:12 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: elcid1970

A college roommate of mine was from Wisconsin. Her dad told me about cannibal sandwiches and how they kept him from getting food poisoning through out his life. I had no idea it was a Wisconsin thing and not just a Mr. G thing until your post.


79 posted on 11/12/2016 7:59:24 PM PST by NorthstarMom
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The problem with chicken pox is that since so many are vaccinated it’s hard for kids to catch. My girls need to catch it before they plan on having children as chicken pox in pregnancy is dangerous. A friend called when her kids had it so I could expose my kids, but I was pregnant and my mom wasn’t sure I’d I had had chicken pox or not-only one spot when it went around my school. . My OB
said no. Three years later and no one has had chicken pox in my circle.


80 posted on 11/12/2016 8:06:07 PM PST by NorthstarMom
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