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Another Electoral College Voter Might Reject Pledge to Clinton
New York Magazine ^ | November 6, 2016 | Chas Danner

Posted on 11/06/2016 10:40:59 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Following the news that one Bernie-Sanders-supporting electoral college voter in Washington State was vowing he would not cast his vote for Hillary Clinton if and when she wins the state’s popular vote, another electoral college voter in the state has told the Seattle Times that he isn’t sure he’ll support her either. That voter, 37-year-old Bret Chiafolo — who also supported Sanders in the primaries — told the Times that he is considering his right to be a “conscientious elector,” thus freeing himself from the responsibility of supporting Clinton. “I have no specific plans, but I have not ruled out that possibility,” he insisted.

Chiafolo said that he thinks that state laws that seek to punish electors for disregarding the popular vote are unconstitutional. He also plans to create a website in order to educate other electors on their rights and raise awareness about the Electoral College system, which he called outdated, though added that “as long as it is the law of the land we need to be honest about it and respect it.”

Clinton is widely expected to win Washington State on Election Day and thus be pledged its 12 electoral votes toward the 270 she needs to defeat Donald Trump and win the presidency. There is no constitutional requirement for Electoral College voters to support the winner of the popular vote in their state, but some states penalize such “faithless electors.” In Washington State, for instance, they would face $1,000 fines. There hasn’t been an intentionally faithless elector in a presidential contest since one voter from Washington D.C. did so in 2000 to protest the city’s lack of representation in Congress, and while no faithless electors have ever thrown a presidential election in U.S. history, never underestimate 2016’s ability to upend whatever you think is possible in American politics.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: democrats; electoralcollege; hillary; washington
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1 posted on 11/06/2016 10:40:59 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m praying we don’t have to rely on electors having a conscience to avoid the criminal Clinton being elected.


2 posted on 11/06/2016 10:45:12 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They used to call this “The rats jumping ship.”

red


3 posted on 11/06/2016 10:47:32 AM PST by Redwood71
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Related...

TRUMP TSUNAMI INCOMING: WHAT TRUMP DID IN FLORIDA TODAY WILL MAKE HIM PRESIDENT!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMl6QfMFSmk


4 posted on 11/06/2016 10:48:30 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

This could snowball as many of their electors probably prefer Bernie over the witch.


5 posted on 11/06/2016 10:49:06 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You’d have to be nuts to pledge anything to satan.


6 posted on 11/06/2016 10:50:49 AM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: Lurkinanloomin

I hope these guys are still around to make the decision how they are going to cast their electorate vote.


7 posted on 11/06/2016 10:51:06 AM PST by DOC44 (Have gun will travel.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just trolling for some payola.


8 posted on 11/06/2016 10:53:03 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (President Trump is coming, and the rule of law is coming with him.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

It is probably a ruse by the Clinton campaign just to get the ground broken up in order to plant the concept.


9 posted on 11/06/2016 10:53:10 AM PST by odawg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It's a trap. If we act like it's okay for electors to defect, then it's okay when Trump electors defect. That may be their plan - if they can't buy the election through ads or through fraud, buy the electors. At $1M each for a few swing votes, it's pocket change for one of America's leading enemies to buy the presidency. Even the Clintons, who were "dead broke" just 16 years ago, could buy a majority.

10 posted on 11/06/2016 10:53:24 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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it would be a great statement on Hillarie’s unfitness for office if trump wins and in those states he does not win serval of her electoral votes refuse to vote for her because she has engaged in criminal activities that endangers the united states...


11 posted on 11/06/2016 10:54:27 AM PST by PCPOET7
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They might want to avoid travelling alone or taking any long walks in secluded parks.
People who oppose the Clintons or represent a threat to their criminal enterprises seem to have extremely bad luck.


12 posted on 11/06/2016 10:56:38 AM PST by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Rebublican 50 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If he wants to live until the Electors vote on December 19th he better reverse himself and shut his mouth!

I would only say it AFTERWARDS!


13 posted on 11/06/2016 11:03:43 AM PST by Az Joe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The blue pill seems to be wearing off in some quarters.


14 posted on 11/06/2016 11:04:31 AM PST by Thickman (Obama - Professor of the United States)
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To: Az Joe

I predict that there will eventually be enough of them that you couldn’t kill them all.


15 posted on 11/06/2016 11:05:13 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Well, the Founding Fathers envisioned the electoral college as a group of learned citizens, who would exercise independent judgement in electing a president. It has evolved into a system of political loyalists who almost always vote for their party nominee. But the Founding Fathers didn’t want direct popular election of the president.


16 posted on 11/06/2016 11:05:50 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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‘This could snowball as many of their electors probably prefer Bernie over the witch.’

The exposures of the corruption, sexual perversion, theft from the poor, blithe ignorance and incompetence, and contempt for labor shown by Mz Clinton, all these are eroding her support of the electors.
I support the old labor agenda, better wages and working conditions, support for small business, and anti corporate monopoly.
And so do a lot of labor electors, who know of and can work with President Trump..
And some of them are tough cookies.
TWB

17 posted on 11/06/2016 11:10:03 AM PST by TWhiteBear (Covert member of the Alt Right, and we are everywhere)
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To: DOC44

At this point, what difference does it make?


18 posted on 11/06/2016 11:10:25 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hilary is an Ameriphobe)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This conscientious objector crap can cut both ways. Soros as much as hinted at it already. I think they are setting us up and they will put her in by flipping electors.


19 posted on 11/06/2016 11:20:37 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is..." - Milton)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In 2000 Bush had only 1 electoral vote to spare and all his electors were pressured but the only elector who changed was a Gore one from DC who abstained.


20 posted on 11/06/2016 11:25:54 AM PST by AU72
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