This Just In: Obamacare Collapsing

PJ Media ^ | October 03, 2016 | Michael Walsh

[Olog-hai]

The whole idea behind the scam known as Obamacare — from its Stalinist passage along a strict party line vote, to its ludicrous state “exchanges,” to its predictably parlous financial condition, to its misuse of a politicized IRS to act as its enforcer, to its destruction of the reputation of a pusillanimous and cowardly chief justice John Roberts — was to wreck the American private-insurance industry so dramatically that a demoralized and anxious public would demand socialized medicine, aka a “single-payer” system.

That day is now here. […]

The departing president, the woman who seeks to replace him and nearly one-third of the Senate have endorsed a new government-sponsored health plan, the so-called public option, to give consumers an additional choice. A significant number of Democrats, for whom Senator Bernie Sanders spoke in the primaries, favor a single-payer arrangement, which could take the form of Medicare for all.

Yeah, like Medicare — which is basically insolvent — is so great. …

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

Don’t worry, Hitlery will fix it LOL LOL

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

I think after 8 years of Hitlery, we will be lucky if we can even buy a band-aid

[Gaffer]

This isn’t gonna be “Medicare” for everybody. Medicate COSTS the insured money, too. They take it out of SS checks every month. Further, the supplemental and prescription stuff costs, too.

What it will end up being for at least the half of this country that pay no federal income tax is Medicaid. Let’s at least get that right, because all Medicaid ends up being is National Health Care. The same shitty options everywhere.

[PGalt]

HIllarycare the Trojan horse the Clinton’s lawn jockey Barry booted to the finish line.

Hillaryous.

[Liz]

Make Democrats Own ObamaCare
Wall Street Journal ^ | 9/01/16 | Kimberley A. Strassel / FR Posted by Libloather

“You bet I voted for that bill. I’m proud I did it!” yelled Russ Feingold at a Wisconsin campaign stop in 2010. That pride—in ObamaCare—lost the three-term Democratic senator his job. Now his party’s ownership of the health-care law may once again decide the Senate.

ObamaCare is roaring back as a political liability to Democrats in a way not seen since that 2010 wave election. Right in time for this fall’s presidential contest, insurers are bailing out of the government system, leaving millions of voters with dwindling options and skyrocketing premiums. ObamaCare was always destined to crack up, but there is something notable that it comes precisely as so much control of Washington is up for grabs. (Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...

[MrChips]

In the meantime, the enrollment period is upon us in November. In most states, wherever insurance companies still exist, they will go through one more cycle of robbing us blind . . . i.e. forcing mandated payments of exorbitant premiums down our throats. As for Medicare, though, yes, it may be bankrupt and ripe with fraud, but, let us remember that it is not the same as single player.

[LouAvul]

I think after 8 years of that pig, we’ll see the secessionist movement come to fruition. A free nation sans kalifornia, new york state, etc, can’t be a bad thing.

[MrChips]

I have a dermatologist who cuts his Band-Aids in half, length-wise. He calls them Obama Band-Aids. 🙂

[txrefugee]

The Democrat Party should be indicted for “predatory promising.” Even the most clueless Millennial should recognize by now that the outrageous bait and switch pulled by Reid and Pelosi to pass this disaster has destroyed health care for millions in this country.

[V_TWIN]

It’s supposed to collapse isn’t it? Just a stepping stone to single payer I always thought.

[Buckeye McFrog]

The first thing Hillary will do about this is what she always does....whore herself out to the highest bidder. The private insurers still standing who are corrupt enough to play ball with her will get a virtual license to fleece us.

[MichaelCorleone]

If the ACA was designed not only to fail but to ‘wreck the American private-insurance industry so dramatically’, why did the insurance companies go along with it? Seems likely those executives would have known what the end-game was.

On the other hand, the insurance executives may well have been promised or already been paid for turning their back on their own company and customers.

Selling Americans out for personal gain - everyone in big media and the Congress seems to be playing that game.

[silverleaf]

Medicare is at least partilally paid for by the people who use it

How is giving a 25 year old “ Medicare” the same as giving it to a 65 yr old who is paying for it?

[Mr. Douglas]

In all seriousness, people need to look at the 8% rule. There is life without health care insurance - if you take care of yourself, control what you eat and, most importantly, pray.

Fact is, health care is a LOT cheaper when you do those things and don’t have insurance. You can save up to 90% on treatments if you buy the service like you buy groceries.

It’s the dirty secret nobody in the industry wants exposed.

[Liz]

There's a lot of Democrat amnesia when it comes to O/Care's notorious Congressional voter history.

MEMORY LANE---As far back as 2008, at the presidential debate in Nashville, Democrat candidate Obama advanced his signature plan that was ultimately enacted (by an historic straight Democrat party-line vote) into the "Affordable Care Act:"

QUOTING OBAMA: "No. 1, let me just repeat, if you’ve got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All I’m going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. You’ll still have choice of doctor.”

Repeated over and over by every loyal Democrat---- conning Americans into believing they'd also be saving $2500.00 on healthcare costs.

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LOCK-STEPPING DEMOCRAT PARTY LOYALTY NOT SEEN SINCE 1930-40's ERA EUROPE.

SEN. HARRY REID (D-Nev.): “In fact, one of our core principles is that if you like the health care you have, you can keep it.” (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.8642, 8/3/09)

SEN. RICHARD DURBIN: “We believe — and we stand by this — if you like your current health insurance plan, you will be able to keep it, plain and simple, straightforward.” (Sen. Durbin, Congressional Record, S.6401, 6/10/09)

SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): “If you like your insurance, you keep it.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/29/09)

SEN. PATTY MURRAY (D-Wash.): “Again, if you like what you have, you will be able to keep it. Let me say this again: If you like what you have, when our legislation is passed and signed by the President, you will be able to keep it.” (Sen. Murray, Congressional Record, S.6400, 6/10/09)

SEN. MAX BAUCUS (D-Mont.): “That is why one of the central promises of health care reform has been and is: If you like what you have, you can keep it. That is critically important. If a person has a plan, and he or she likes it, he or she can keep it.” (Sen. Baucus, Congressional Record, S.7676, 9/29/10)

SEN. TOM HARKIN (D-Iowa): “One of the things we put in the health care bill when we designed it was the protection for consumers to keep the plan they have if they like it; thus, the term ‘grandfathered plans.’ If you have a plan you like — existing policies — you can keep them. … we said, if you like a plan, you get to keep it, and you can grandfather it in.” (Sen. Harkin, Congressional Record, S.7675-6, 9/29/10)

THEN-REP. TAMMY BALDWIN (D-Wis.): “Under the bill, if you like the insurance you have now, you may keep it and it will improve.” (Rep. Baldwin, Press Release, 3/18/10)

SEN. MARK BEGICH (D-Alaska): “If you got a doctor now, you got a medical professional you want, you get to keep that. If you have an insurance program or a health care policy you want of ideas, make sure you keep it. That you can keep who you want.” (Sen. Begich, Townhall Event, 7/27/09)

SEN. MICHAEL BENNET (D-Colo.): “We should begin with a basic principle: if you have coverage and you like it, you can keep it. If you have your doctor, and you like him or her, you should be able to keep them as well. We will not take that choice away from you.” (Sen. Bennet, Press Release, 6/11/09)

SEN. BARBARA BOXER (D-Calif.): “So we Democrats want people to be able to keep the health care they have. And the answer to that is choice of plans. And in the exchange, we’re going to have lots of different plans, and people will be able to keep the health care coverage they need and they want.” (Sen. Boxer, Press Release, 2/8/11)

SEN. SHERROD BROWN (D-Ohio): “Our Democrat bill says if you have health insurance and you like it, you can keep it…”(Sen. Brown, Congressional Record, S.12612, 12/7/09)

SEN. BEN CARDIN (D-Md.): “For the people of Maryland, this bill will provide a rational way in which they can maintain their existing coverage…” (Sen. Cardin, Congressional Record, S.13798, 12/23/09)

SEN. BOB CASEY (D-Pa.): “I also believe this Democrat legislation and the bill we are going to send to President Obama this fall will also have secure choices. If you like what you have, you like the plan you have, you can keep it. It is not going to change.” (Sen. Casey, Congressional Record, S.8070, 7/24/09)

SEN. KAY HAGAN (D-N.C.): ‘People who have insurance they’re happy with can keep it’ “We need to support the private insurance industry so that people who have insurance they’re happy with can keep it while also providing a backstop option for people without access to affordable coverage.” (“Republicans Vent As Other Compromise Plans Get Aired,” National Journal’s Congress Daily, 6/18/09)

SEN. MARY LANDRIEU (D-La.): “If you like the insurance that you have, you’ll be able to keep it.” (MSNBC’s Hardball, 12/16/09)

SEN. PAT LEAHY (D-Vt.): “[I]f you like the insurance you now have, keep the insurance you have.” (CNN’s “Newsroom,” 10/22/09)

SEN. BOB MENENDEZ (D-N.J.): “If you like what you have, you get to keep it” “Menendez is a member of the Senate Finance Committee, which is expected to release a bill later this week. He stressed that consumers who are satisfied with their plans won’t have to change. ‘If you like what you have, you get to keep it,’ he said.” (“Health Care Plan Would Help N.J., Menendez Says,” The Record, 6/19/09)

SEN. JEFF MERKLEY (D-Oreg.): “[E]nsuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it” “The HELP Committee bill sets forward a historic Democrat plan that will, for the first time in American history, give every American access to affordable health coverage, reduce costs, and increase choice, while ensuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it.” (Sen. Merkley, Press Release, 7/15/09)

SEN. BARBARA MIKULSKI (D-Md.): “It means that if you like the insurance you have now, you can keep it.” (Sen. Mikulski, Press Release, 12/24/09)

SEN. JAY ROCKEFELLER (D-W.Va.): “I want people to know, the President’s promise that if you like the coverage you have today you can keep it is a pledge we intend to keep.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Hearing, 9/23/09)

SEN. JACK REED (D-R.I.): “If you like the insurance you have, you can choose to keep it.” (Sen. Reed, Town Hall Event, 6/25/09)

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-Vt.): “‘If you have coverage you like, you can keep it,’ says Sen. Sanders.” (“Sick And Wrong,” Rolling Stone, 4/5/10)

SEN. JEANNE SHAHEEN (D-N.H.): ‘if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it’ “My understanding … is that … if you have health coverage that you like you can keep it. As I said, you may have missed my remarks at the beginning of the call, but one of the things I that I said as a requirement that I have for supporting a Democrat bill is that if you have health coverage that you like you should be able to keep that. …under every scenario that I’ve seen, if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it.” (Sen. Shaheen, “Health Care Questions From Across New Hampshire,” Accessed 11/13/13)

SEN. DEBBIE STABENOW (D-Mich.): “As someone who has a large number of large employers in my state, one of the things I appreciate about the Democrat chairman’s remark is — is the grandfathering provisions, the fact that the people in my state, 60 percent of whom have insurance, are going to be able to keep it. And Mr. Chairman, I appreciate that. That’s a strong commitment. It’s clear in the bill … I appreciate the strong commitment on your part and the president to make sure that if you have your insurance you can keep it. That’s the bottom line for me.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/24/09)

SEN. JON TESTER (D-Mont.): “‘If you like your coverage, you’ll be able to keep it,’ Tester said, adding that if Medicare changes, it will only become stronger”. (“Tester In Baker To Discuss Health Care,” The Fallon County Times, 11/20/09)

SEN. TOM UDALL (D-N.Mex.): “Some worried reform would alter their current coverage. It won’t. If you like your current plan, you can keep it.” (“What I Learned: About Health Care Reform This Summer, By Your Lawmakers In Congress,” Albuquerque Journal, 9/8/09)

SEN. SHELDON WHITEHOUSE (D-R.I.): “..it honors President Obama’s programs and the promise of all of the Presidential candidates that if you like the plan you have, you get to keep it. You are not forced out of anything.” (Sen. Whitehouse, Congressional Record, S.8668, 8/3/09)

Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) the 60th vote on Obamacare: "people who are happy with their current plan, wouldn't need to change it."
FRANKEN YOUTUBE SOUND BITE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZmAYYNz8Ihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZmAYYNz8I

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Twenty-nine Democrats who voted for it (including onetime lawmaker Landrieu who pocketed a bundle to vote for it) were ousted in the 2014 midterm Democrat Demolition Derby.

Odd, isn't it, that the latest 2016 electoral map resembles the 2014 midterm map? (smirk)

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2016 electoral map resembles 2014 midterm map----the year the Democrats got slaughtered (smirk).

2016 is an electoral projection map----2014 is Congressional race results.

[MrChips]

You must not have paid much attention to Carly Fiorina. She gave wonderful descriptions of just how Obamacare was the supreme example of crony capitalism. On the one hand, it benefited government by making it larger, bureaucratic, empowering the Democratic Party. On the other hand, it benefited insurance companies, who, after all, essentially wrote the thing, by requiring everyone to purchase insurance, millions of people at a very high cost, with absurdly high deductibles that for most people are never reached. Yeah, the insurance companies were happy to play the game.

[Starboard]

Its not just the Obamacare pig. Many states are becoming increasingly frustrated with federal intrusions into state’s rights, unfunded mandates by the federal government, the unchecked invasion of immigrants, and the collapse of law and order. The way things are going some states may decide, in effect, to go their own way. A form of virtual secession if you will.

[MrChips]

Well, you do have to pray . . . that you don’t fall off a roof, that you are not diagnosed with cancer, that your existing heart condition magically goes away.

[Mr. Douglas]

Meh. If I fall off a roof, I get it fixed. If I get cancer, I use the Gerson method, which cured an acquaintance of stage four breast cancer. You’d be surprised how cheap both are to fix. (and I’ve saved ~$45,000 in after tax dollars since Jan 1, 2014 by having no health care insurance)

I’m 62. My kids are long gone. Death is a part of life. “To live is Christ and to die is gain.” — The apostle Paul