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Shia fighters join Assad's troops to prepare for final assault on Aleppo <***Graphic Photos
http://www.telegraph.com ^ | October 1, 2016 | Raf Sanchez, Middle East

Posted on 10/01/2016 12:48:18 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: DIRTYSECRET
So tell me: is this good or bad?

Hard to tell...nowadays...

I do know under Assad Christians were protected, he kept in check the fundamentalist Islamics, the country was basically stable as much as a ME country can be, until Obama and Clinton tried to overthrow him and replace him with the MB...

41 posted on 10/01/2016 2:18:34 PM PDT by Popman
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To: Psalm 144
...”A case can certainly be made for that. Ditto McCain, Hellary and Obama. And their agents for sustaining and promoting this chaotic slaughter”...

That's exactly right.....has nothing to do with Arab Springs and all that propaganda they spew throughout the media. Just like installing Morsi Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt as they did, they seek to do likewise throughout the ME because they falsely believe they can control the Brotherhood. I so hate this entire administration for it's cruelty, deception and death, torture and blood shed of so many that could have been prevented. How many times were their agreements between the parties EXCEPT for Kerry, Obama and Hillary......they wanted Assad out no matter what. ...so it continued time and again.

42 posted on 10/01/2016 2:25:48 PM PDT by caww
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
About the only "good" in this scenario was that Christians under Assad were about as free and protected as they could be under mooslim rule.

It appears to me that hussein, the Boy King, is trying to get us in a shooting war with Russia before the election.

43 posted on 10/01/2016 2:26:50 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

http://atimes.com/2016/06/saudi-arabia-and-turkeys-pipeline-wars-in-yemen-and-syria/

Qatar-Turkey gas pipeline through Syria’s Aleppo

Writing in Armed Forces Journal, Major Rob Taylor joined numerous other pundits in observing that the Syrian civil war is actually a pipeline war over control of energy supply, with Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey needing to remove Assad “so they can control Syria and run their own pipeline through Turkey.”[6]

“Saudi Arabia and Qatar, as well as al-Qaeda and other groups, are maneuvering to depose Assad and capitalize on their hoped-for Sunni conquest in Damascus. By doing this, they hope to gain a share of control over the ‘new’ Syrian government, and a share in the pipeline wealth.”

The proposed pipeline would traverse Aleppo where Turkey’s Erdogan has been lobbying for a no-fly zone backed by US military power and American tax dollars.


44 posted on 10/01/2016 2:28:59 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
What a horror show.

And to think,... the Administration wants to bring it here.

45 posted on 10/01/2016 2:30:18 PM PDT by Gritty (This election is our last chance... We won't get another opportunity. It will be too late.-DJTrump)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

It’s All BAD!
They are Coming Here.


46 posted on 10/01/2016 2:55:47 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Psalm 144

Don’t forget that Graham and Rubio were helping McCain to arm jihadis.


47 posted on 10/01/2016 2:57:37 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: Big Red Badger
Yes, if Hillary wins, expect a huge influx of Syrians (but Muslims only).

If the media was honest, the public would be aware of her role in creating the mess in Syria. But considering how well they protected Obama from any damage for Benghazi, which was fairly easy to understand, it is unlikely anyone can inform the public between now and the election about her role in the Syrian mess.

Not sure Trump will be able to create any good solution if he wins.

48 posted on 10/01/2016 3:36:11 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Psalm 144

Bush also or was he jsut blind to the problems that would happen?


49 posted on 10/01/2016 3:40:38 PM PDT by wattojawa (If you raise a 0 to a higher power it remains a 0)
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To: caww

You are so right. Commentators keep complaining that Obama’s Syrian policy is “ambiguous” or ill-defined or doesn’t exist. There is nothing ambiguous about it. The administration just tries to cover it up with obfuscations about “fighting ISIS” or “humanitarian concerns” or “encouraging democracy” because they know their real objectives won’t fly politically.


50 posted on 10/01/2016 3:58:26 PM PDT by RAldrich
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That's right...all about disposing of Assad one way or another. Heck even the so called civil war parties were in agreement on a truce and working together early on but Obama and Hillary weren't about to let that happen without Assad leaving...

Bottom line is if a national leader doesn't go along with the Globalists Plan these beasts will and do go after them via their own people...and using any means they can hide behind to accomplish their objective in regime changes. It's all about that and re-distributing populations (human capital) removing young military age men from conflict nations...thus going in after the resources once the conflicts are managable.......Assad said no deal.

51 posted on 10/01/2016 4:09:10 PM PDT by caww
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
what will Obama do, after he leaves office..?

He'll push for driverless cars and sell used Blackberrys, give lectures for insomniacs, collect Chairman Mao lighters, the usual stuff.. Oh .. and golf.

Do PSAs on how to get stuff FREE!

52 posted on 10/01/2016 4:41:14 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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53 posted on 10/01/2016 5:59:47 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Sam Gamgee

Washington Was Behind Ukraine Coup: Obama admits that US “Brokered a Deal” in Support of “Regime Change”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/washington-was-behind-ukraine-coup-obama-admits-that-us-brokered-a-deal-in-support-of-regime-change/5429142


54 posted on 10/01/2016 6:07:59 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Bogie
You make it sound like 0bama wouldn't want this chaos to happen.

Do you understand how crazy you sound?

55 posted on 10/01/2016 6:34:29 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/08/31/member-of-congress-berates-obama-for-consulting-congress-on-syria/

It’s a crazy world out there. You’ll have to get used to it.


56 posted on 10/01/2016 9:26:50 PM PDT by Bogie (Just a coincidence?)
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To: caww

Yep.....they want Assad dead.


57 posted on 10/01/2016 11:37:40 PM PDT by ColdOne ((poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Hillary Clinton.....will stick a shiv into our freedom!)
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To: ColdOne
I don't pretend to understand the governance of Syria......the propaganda about M.E. leaders seems to be always they're ruthless and tyrants whenever there's a push for regime change.....

However given the mindset and cultural beliefs in the Muslim world, how they settle issues and that among the various tribal differences.....I'm not convinced a “strong arm” isn't necessary to keep the factions from constant conflicts among themselves....as we so often see in Afghanistan and throughout the ME..... I've listened to Assads interviews as he spoke from the beginning of this conflict and as it escalated to outright war through to today. I don't see the man as the tyrant he's made out to be considering the nation he has governed. Rather he understands the nature and the tribal issues among the people.....and to bring the nation into the modern world is a slow and grinding process.

But as in all ME nations today the Caliphate drive and religious prophecies, many believe in, come into play and Syria is the "key" nation they know is necessary to bring those prophecies about. At the same time we have the Nato expansion and Globalists desire for World Governance which requires co-operative leaders to that end from those in the ME. Equally as much the Sunni/Shiite divide operating in the fray among the people on who will ultimately rule their world...and both have World Domination in mind.. Assad has refused to go along with Globalists ideas of their utopia world.....but in the end it will be a war for world dominance in that part of the world.....

58 posted on 10/02/2016 9:57:37 AM PDT by caww
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
RE: "So where is John Kerry and his cease fire?
Oh MY what will Obama do?"

Kerry probably trying to figure out how to fall off his bike again, so he can go home for some rest.

Usurper probably trying to figure out how to lay low for a bit once he leaves office. Not as many vacations will be on the venue since he no longer has free travel in AF1.
Perhaps he will join Kerry on a bike tour of Chicago.
59 posted on 10/02/2016 2:08:25 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......but alas! Honor must be earned...)
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To: caww

Thanks for that info.


60 posted on 10/03/2016 7:06:27 AM PDT by ColdOne ((poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Hillary Clinton.....will stick a shiv into our freedom!)
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