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Robert J. Samuelson: The Old Fed Is Dead
Investors Business Daily ^ | September 17, 2016 | ROBERT J. SAMUELSON

Posted on 09/19/2016 5:48:18 AM PDT by expat_panama

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To: expat_panama

They have to keep the economy on life support until the passing of the presidential baton.


21 posted on 09/19/2016 6:56:57 AM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: expat_panama

What happens to the US debt if the Fed declares bankruptcy?


22 posted on 09/19/2016 6:59:46 AM PDT by spacewarp (FreeRepublic, Rush's show prep since foundation.)
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To: Arm_Bears

Let’s start with a thorough, microscopic audit and all info made pubic via the internet.


23 posted on 09/19/2016 7:00:46 AM PDT by Original Lurker
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To: Lumper20

“Now, people when I say that look at me and say, ‘What are you talking about, Joe? You’re telling me we have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt?’” Biden said. “The answer is yes, that’s what I’m telling you.”


24 posted on 09/19/2016 7:03:46 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
The Federal Reserve is at war on the middle class.

As it always has been, since its inception...

the infowarrior

25 posted on 09/19/2016 7:18:04 AM PDT by infowarrior
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To: expat_panama
The job market is strong and very close to full employment.

What are these guys smoking? Maybe for illegals and H1B visa holders.

26 posted on 09/19/2016 7:53:17 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: expat_panama

As soon as the market believes the Fed will raise interest rates, the bubble will deflate, perhaps precipitously.

Everyone in the market understands that the Fed will do everything it can to keep the bubble from popping before the election no matter how much damage they are setting up for down the road.

The Fed today is an arm of the corrupt globalist Uniparty.


27 posted on 09/19/2016 7:58:07 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: expat_panama

When one’s chosen economic theory includes something called a “liquidity trap” [meaning that sometimes, for no apparent reason, the theory just doesn’t work], one might begin to reason that the theory is wrong.


28 posted on 09/19/2016 8:09:29 AM PDT by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: ichabod1

The Reps with Gingrich had a Contract with America and finally we got a balanced budget plus our debts paid. All the liberal policies the left demanded for votes namely they promised everyone should be able to buy a house. We ended up with the CRA and then they started with the biggest banks and demanded X # of loans to minorities with less then acceptable credit. They finally got to smaller banks and of course NINJA loans. Then after the bail outs to include Buffett’s AIG and Iraq, we owed 8 trillion. Next Obama and everyone gets a phone etc. These handouts to even illegals has us to almost 20 trillion. This has to end.


29 posted on 09/19/2016 10:04:04 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: mountainlion

The Fed is not “owned by the World Bank”.

The closest it comes to being owned by anything is the United States Treasury. Any and all income above salaries, rent and other basic expenses goes directly to the Treasury.


30 posted on 09/20/2016 6:21:50 PM PDT by Pelham (DLM. Deplorable Lives Matter)
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To: spacewarp

“What happens to the US debt if the Fed declares bankruptcy?”

1) The Fed can’t go bankrupt. It can be dissolved.

2) The national debt will still be there, just like it was in the 150 yrs prior to the Fed. Congress authorizes the debt, the Treasury sells the bonds to the public. They don’t need the Fed to do it, they will just use a big money center bank.


31 posted on 09/20/2016 6:37:13 PM PDT by Pelham (DLM. Deplorable Lives Matter)
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To: Pelham
The Fed is a private bank with a chairman approved by CONgress if I remember right. What they do is the will of the globalists not “We the People”. They have even admitted that they caused the Great Depression.
32 posted on 09/20/2016 6:50:00 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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“The Fed is a private bank with a chairman approved by CONgress if I remember right.”

The Fed is comprised of private banks that are required to join. Prior to the Fed its role was performed by the largest bank in the country, JP Morgan. The Fed does have government oversight, which JP Morgan lacked. If anything the Fed is more accountable to the public than when JP Morgan did whatever they wanted.

“They have even admitted that they caused the Great Depression.”

No, they didn’t admit anything of the sort. Milton Friedman and Anna Schwartz blamed the 1930s Fed for failing to act to halt the collapse of the banking system which was the primary cause of the Great Depression. But they didn’t blame the Fed for causing it. The Bernanke Fed appears to have agreed with Friedman and Schwartz since they provided massive liquidity to banks as the 2008 crisis unfolded.

“What they do is the will of the globalists not “We the People”.”

That’s the usual conspiracy nonsense. The Fed is in charge of American monetary policy and its primary role is to adjust the money supply and to make sure that the banking system doesn’t collapse. When we had a gold standard their role was also to defend the dollar, something which became difficult if not impossible due to the Triffin dilemma.


33 posted on 09/20/2016 10:11:06 PM PDT by Pelham (DLM. Deplorable Lives Matter)
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To: Original Lurker

https://research.stlouisfed.org/datatrends/usfd/

You can get this stuff weekly already. Better than Ambien.


34 posted on 09/20/2016 10:16:19 PM PDT by Pelham (DLM. Deplorable Lives Matter)
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To: Pelham
First of all we are not going to agree on this but I put forth my point of view:

http://www.wnd.com/2008/03/59405/ Bernanke did say the fed caused the great depression.

Read the book “Creature form Jekyll Island” by Edward Griffin for the background of the take over of the banking system.

Ron Paul I think it was who said without the fed we would have 17% more in our pockets. I do not trust the globalists and the fed is one reason why.

35 posted on 09/21/2016 6:30:30 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion
Bernanke's PBS interview quoted in the WND article refers to Friedman and Schwartz and their 'A Monetary History of the United States'. I own that book and moreover I've read it, the pertinent part being the long chapter titled 'The Great Contraction' which someone helpfully posted to the internet for those not inclined to buying obscure but serious monetary histories.

Kupelian tosses in his own spin here in his WND piece:

"After citing how Friedman and Schwartz documented the Fed’s continual contraction of the money supply during the Depression and its aftermath – and the subsequent abandonment of the gold standard by many nations in order to stop the devastating monetary contraction "

but Friedman and Schwartz do not say that the Fed contracted the money supply, continually or otherwise. Contractions are the natural result of accumulated bad loans made by individual banks during booms, they are part of the business cycle.

What Friedman and Schwartz do fault the 1930s Fed for is having failed to halt the failure of small non-Fed banks and the resulting vicious cycle of contraction once it got started. This is unlike what the Fed had done earlier in the 1920s.

Why the Fed failed to act is their issue. The final section of their chapter addresses 'Why Was Monetary Policy So Inept?' and they conclude that it had to do with changes in personnel, the death of Benjamin Strong, infighting over who would control Fed policy, and not fully understanding what was happening to the banking system. Some Fed officials held to a laissez-faire belief that allowing banks to fail would weed out bad banks so they weren't inclined to do anything to save them.

36 posted on 09/21/2016 9:09:07 AM PDT by Pelham (DLM. Deplorable Lives Matter)
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