Yup. I agree with you.
Personally I have always believed that he was born in Hawaii. Some Conservative blogger (forget which one now) had dug up his birth announcement from the Honolulu Advertiser the day after he was born.
Planting that for a Kenyan-born baby, knowing for sure he’d become President in half a century, just stretches beyond all credulity.
But he could have been born in Peoria, Philadelphia or Lexington and Concord....does not matter because in his mind he was raised to be an anti-American Citizen of the World.
I know people who actually WERE born in Africa who are much more American than Barack Hussein Obama.
Agree. I think when the facts come out, it won’t be the location that is the bombshell, but who the dad really is.
Hawaii’s birth registration policy used to be purposely loose — if you were registered within a few days of delivery, it might not matter that you weren’t actually delivered there; you’d get credited with that anyhow. Yes we were given a forgery, yet it was apparently intended to be a faithful reproduction of what Hawaii would have issued anyhow from its records under the circumstances. Even Hawaii did not literally know.
Barack had no problem becoming a “world soul” however. That sold the USA out something fierce. The point of being natural born was to eliminate motive for acting like this. However the Constitution probably never envisioned the “globe trotter from birth” set which is at least equally bad.
So did I. I thought it was a false flag, diverting from the two real issues. One is if he is a Natural Born Citizen. The other is if he went to college as an Indonesian citizen, and if he did, when did he go back to being a US citizen.
Now the issue is undoing the damage Obama has done to the US. Historians are going to have to sort out how Obama got to be US President.
No there’s a perfectly good reason if he was born abroad for that announcement: citizenship. You have to go into “the rabbit hole” on this, but according to the law at the time he was born, his birth to a foreign father and an American mother if it occurred abroad would not have qualified him for U.S. citizenship. But . . . Hawaii, being a pretty Third World place and brand new state as of 1961, allowed parents to file births at home with not much scrutiny. We know for a fact that his grandparents and mother did in fact live in Hawaii, so if he was born abroad, they could’ve filed a birth at home in order to qualify him for U.S. citizenship, and that birth at home would’ve automatically generated an announcement in the Advertiser.
So, I would put money that the original document on file there is a birth at home certificate, but of course, they could never reveal that because it would just generate more questions than answers, so first was the computer-generated certification (that said yes born in Hawaii, but not details on exactly where) and then the forgery.
Yeah, it seems that the most likely scenario is that he was born in Hawaii. Then, in order to take advantage of programs that favored foreigners, he tried to pass himself off as Kenyan. That’s why we have never gotten to see his passport or school records.
I believe a baby was born in Hawaii on that date. It's a long way from there to believing the big baby in our White House is the same baby, and 7.5 years into this 8 year disaster I do not care enough to form an opinion on that. It doesn't matter though. Nothing about the person who now calls himself Barack Hussein Obama is American other than the birth certificate he claims to belong to.
I was one who could not care about this issue until Obama released his birth certificate- I just enjoyed pushing it to try to keep them distracted from doing any more damage...
But then Trump forced him to release his BC. And so I downloaded it....
And I was shocked- I am a computer software engineer for a living - I have written imaging software and had my software validated by the government at Fort Huachuka.
Since I do imaging work, my default program for opening PDF files is not the usual “PDF Viewer’ most people have, but PhotoShop itself.
As soon as I opened it I thought “wtf?” (literally).
There was layers. And I could turn them off and on. And they were layers for odd portions of text. And under the layers you could see the entire blank security paper... You should have no way of knowing what is UNDER some text in security paper, unless the paper was scanned in first, and then the text added. There were other things- clear font difference and pixel differences. You can see the detailed analysis online.
And then I watched the next day as some supposed technical guru LIED and “explained” why there should be layers because of OCR. The stupid sheeple and media all fall for it hook line and sinker...
I am qualified enough that I could be called into court as an expert on computer images, and I am telling you the BC is A FAKE.
So... why would he have to issue a fake BC?
Why would he need to send a “team of lawyers” to “sign waivers” all the way to Hawaii to get his BC- I have ordered mine (and my daughters) online and had them arrive in the mail for $35.
And why was his very first executive order an order to seal all his records?
(google: executive orders obama january 2009)
THIS GUY IS A FRAUD. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN EASY TASK TO EXPOSE HIM. THE GOP ARE COWARDS which is why Trump had to do it.
He was born in Hawaii, but probably the father space says “UNKNOWN” probably because it’s Frank Marahall Davis.
A birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper is not a birth certificate. An announcement could easily be placed in the paper at that time.
There are so many questions/irregularities about the address given in that announcement, the alleged birth certificate, social security number, etc. to question their validity.
Many people have invested time and money to piece together the information and misinformation. To dismiss what they have found and decide an announcement in a paper settles the question does a disservice to them.
Speculating on where he was born, huh? I think you have this backward. It's not my job to speculate on where he was born, it's HIS job to PROVE to ME that he was born in Hawaii. So far, he has failed to do so.
Were you aware of the fact that you did not have to be born in a Hawaii hospital to get a birth certificate? You could birth your baby at home or out in the bushes (just like women of Hawaii were doing for 100 years before Whitey and his hospital came along). Then you go in, sign an affidavit that he was born in your house, and bingo, birth certificate (and you really think that Grandma Obama didn't know this?).Oh and by the way, this is the same Grandma who got him his social security number (the one that was issued in Connecticut). Do your homework on that, and then get back to me about how Grandma would NEVER issue a phony affidavit of his birth in order to get him U.S. citizenship. Conspiracy? No, just a nimble grandmother who knew the system and was looking out for her grandson.
The department of health will then issue a standard statement to the local newspapers that you were born. Have you read the notice in the Hawaii newspaper? I have. Funny thing is, it didn't say anything about him being born in a hospital. Even funnier, the hospitals don't have any record of him. Even funnier than that, there are some people out there who think that the newspaper announcement means jack shit ('cause it DOESN'T!).
So far we have seen a 'certification of live birth'. This is nothing but a computer generated abstract. But an abstract of WHAT? WHAT are the underlying documents? Then we saw the phony-baloney birth certificate that they put together with Adobe, but that has already been discredited by every document examiner who has looked at it. And again, what are the underlying documents? What! Let's not forget that Obama has still not release his records from Hawaii. They can SAY he was born in Hawaii all day long, but again, this is based on what? An affidavit? From who? Signed by who? Why can't we see it? And again, why is there no record of his birth in the local hospitals?
In closing, let me reiterate the key points: 1)I don't have to prove anything to you, you need to prove things to me. 2)Trying to get tricky and turn the argument around so that I have to prove some alternative theory to you? In your dreams (see item #1). 3)Setting up the straw man argument that the newspaper notice was part of some conspiracy reaching 40 years into the future, and this could not be, therefor Obama must have been born in Hawaii? Well, I believe we covered that too. That fact that anyone would even point to that useless newspaper notice and try use it to try to muddy the water, that's what just stretches beyond all credulity
When you get ahold of the original, underlying documents that Obama has withheld, get back to me. Or when you can even come up with a valid reason for him to withhold them, get back to me.
Several facts point to him having been born across the border in Canada. The two biggest are the phony Selective service document, “created in ‘08,” and the fact that Obama has never used his own Social Security number. Why would you ever need to use other people’s SS numbers as your own, if you had one?
And unwed teen mothers in 1960 Seattle usually went to one of two unwed mother homes in Vancouver, Canada for several months and returned sans baby (adopted out in Canada). The Dunhams knew this as Stanley Ann went to high school there. The first place she was seen with a newborn Barack was in Seattle, registering for college and not knowing even how to change the baby’s diaper.