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Boeing challenges Denmark over choice of Lockheed Martin jets
Reuters ^ | Sep 15, 2016

Posted on 09/15/2016 6:28:48 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Boeing formally challenged a decision by the Danish government to pick Lockheed Martin's F-35 fighter jet over its own Super Hornet, saying on Thursday the choice was based on a "flawed evaluation process".

Boeing said it had submitted a request to the country's ministry of defence that would require it to provide all materials related to the procurement evaluation and decision announced in June.

"We believe the ministry's evaluation of the competitors was fundamentally flawed and inaccurately assessed the cost and capability of the F/A-18 Super Hornet," said Boeing vice president Debbie Rub.

In May Boeing challenged the Danish government's recommendation to buy 27 fighter jets from Lockheed Martin, questioning data which suggested its Super Hornet fighter jet was a more expensive option.

A ministry report in May evaluating each fighter jet candidate was based on data estimating that the Super Hornet would have a service life of 6,000 flying hours, while Boeing thinks the right figure for Denmark is 9,500 hours.

(Excerpt) Read more at in.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aviation; boeing; denmark; f35; lockheedmartin

1 posted on 09/15/2016 6:28:48 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Healthy competition...at least they bought American.
2 posted on 09/15/2016 6:31:40 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Proud Member Of The "Basket Of Deplorables")
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To: Gay State Conservative

The Danes chose the other airplane...get over it. The Super Hornet must be a later, improved model of the old F-18 but an old airframe to say the least. The F-35 is newer though not without many problems. Good Luck Denmark.


3 posted on 09/15/2016 6:46:12 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

9,500 hours, that is a lot of “strapping in!


4 posted on 09/15/2016 6:47:50 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Boeing has a history of doing this every time them lose. I’ll withhold my full opinion on them.


5 posted on 09/15/2016 6:48:00 PM PDT by boycott (--s)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Well governments make flawed choices all the time. They suffer the bad choices.


6 posted on 09/15/2016 7:21:09 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: boycott

They do it often, especially when the “facts” are not correct. If the contest is judged with correct facts, they probably would just let things go. In this case, it appears that their entry was not judged using correct values, so they complained, saying “Here are the actual numbers”.


7 posted on 09/15/2016 7:33:49 PM PDT by Imnidiot (This space for Rent)
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To: Imnidiot

They will also do it when the facts are clearly correct. They carry a lot of political weight.


8 posted on 09/15/2016 7:48:58 PM PDT by boycott (--s)
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To: BatGuano

I am sure performance meant more to their selection process than cost. But these challenges are not fun. I have been there and you have to have good documentation from the selection committee and it has to show that you made your decision with due respect for the process.

Nevertheless, good for Lockheed, (The source of my pension).


9 posted on 09/15/2016 8:14:38 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (California engineer (ret) and ex-teacher (ret) now part time Professor (what do you know?))
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To: BatGuano

Super hornet is actually newer than the 35 moonpig, and its a clean sheet design sharing almost nothing with the original, beyond the name. The USN called it super hornet to get around a law. They sold it as an improved hornet when it’s nothing of the kind.


10 posted on 09/15/2016 9:10:34 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

This is now a standard part of the procurement process. I’d be surprised if there wasn’t a budget established for this when the RFP was let. Loser pays might help rein this in.


11 posted on 09/16/2016 5:10:32 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger)
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To: DesertRhino

“almost nothing” except all the aerodynamics. You can’t argue that they ‘clean sheeted’ that.

And no. Not newer. Not even close. It first flew over TWENTY years ago. Over 10 years before the F-35.

Not saying it isn’t a great plane. The Navy seems very happy with it. It was built as an alternative after the A-12 was canceled, not as an F-35 competitor.


12 posted on 09/16/2016 8:50:50 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: NonValueAdded

“This is now a standard part of the procurement process”

I can see the proposal time line now...
-Receive RFI
-Submit
-Receive RFP
-Submit
-Get results
-Call lawyers
-Whine to customer
-Complain to the press
-Etc.


13 posted on 09/16/2016 8:53:19 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Shoulda gone SAAB, then Boeing and LockMart could have been equally unhappy.


14 posted on 09/16/2016 10:03:05 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Laws are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools" Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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