Posted on 09/10/2016 8:01:28 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Taxation is theft.
If so America has been stealing since day one.
This is an interesting bit of logic, but I'm not sure the judge considered a reasonable extension of it:
Couldn't the toll itself be considered a congestion alleviation measure? That's pretty much what has happened at the bridge and tunnel crossing of the Port Authority of NY and NJ, where traffic volumes declined noticeably after their last round of toll hikes.
I will support toll roads the day if they have tax free gas stations on them and can prove that they get no money from the government for maintenance
This is a prime example of how monies initially mandated for ONE purpose blends into the general funds....meanwhile the cost of all goods transported gets higher to “we” the consumer through no abberation except for filling the ever growing public tax trough’s...that pigs feed from and align their government contracts to after deciding who “kicked” back the most.
When a trucking company reports its mileage to each state where it operates, it gets a tax credit for the tolls it pays in any state with a toll road.
They do the same thing with gasoline taxes, tacking on all their little pet projects.
I think it could be said that those roads, and the maintenance on them, was appropriate for the time.
A rig that carries 200 gallons of diesel can do an average of 1600 miles depending on what you’re hauling....also most rigs are (who long haul)are chipped...I think they are taxed for another form of transport that is competing against them as opposed to a subway/train that makes their way less congested in order to generate a dollar or two
The Erie Canal barge system doesn’t really compete against the trucking industry. From what I understand, the canal system is used almost exclusively for recreational travel.
The problem with “toll roads” is that they are “never” paid off. I wonder what they do with the tolls they collect on roads that have long ago been paid off.
The tolls are leveraged ten-to-one for the issuance of revenue bonds dedicated to maintenance of the toll road or to new projects. Many toll authorities are authorized to exist in perpetuity and are not required to shut down when the bonds are paid off.
Yep. The moment the Ohio Turnpike (the only toll road here, fortunately) was paid off, the turnpike commission went through several backflips to prove that they were allowed to keep collecting tolls for maintenance and long term improvements.
And they were pissed just having to pay taxes on tea. I wonder what they'd think about all the ways the government conceals taxes , especially in Obama 's new socialist order.
“Yep. The moment the Ohio Turnpike (the only toll road here, fortunately) was paid off, the turnpike commission went through several backflips to prove that they were allowed to keep collecting tolls for maintenance and long term improvements. “
Both the San Francisco Bay Bridge and the Golden Gate Bridge were paid off decades ago with a $.25 toll. Now they are five or six bucks depending on when you use them, and they add $10.00 per axle so you have a trailer or an 18-wheeler the number gets big quickly. But the mfing bike lanes and money loosing bus services have their hands in the till forcing the auto commuter to pay for the “free rides” that those users get.
I have been fighting these god forsaken tolls for 21 years
this isn’t taxation it’s a charge to use a road. Why can’t the NYSTA charge whatever they want ?
what if the Highway was privatized ? could a fully privatized highway be able to charge any rate it deemed fit ?
If the money goes to the gov’t it’s a tax. Use tax in this case.
Maryland and Delaware can go to hell.
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