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California’s Healthy Kids programs fade as undocumented children gain access to Medi-Cal
Santa Cruz Sentinel ^ | 09/03/16 | Jocelyn Wiener

Posted on 09/03/2016 7:40:35 PM PDT by artichokegrower

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To: Seaplaner
It wasn't the "little card" that payed for those expensive surgeries and care.

No, it was not. It was the overburdened American taxpayer.

I do believe things have reached a boiling point.

And that is saying something, given that Americans are the most generous people on the planet, always first on the scene in a huge natural disaster (Haiti earthquake; the tsunami, etc....)

21 posted on 09/03/2016 8:46:20 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (God bless the United States of America)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

California is an “ambulance case” and soon could be a “basket case” the way they are spending taxpayers money, often without proper accountability. And if they lose any more major businesses because of taxes, then their taxing base will shrink even further.

This is especially true if Hollywood and some of the TV networks keep producing junk. I haven’t been to a first run movie in over 10 years and I feel fine. I read a lot.


22 posted on 09/03/2016 9:02:37 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: artichokegrower

No emergency room in the US. is allowed to turn down someone in a medical emergency. Little Sergio could have been treated and his parents billed. And the bill would be a lot lower if there was competition instead of bloated bureaucracies and subsidies.


23 posted on 09/03/2016 9:21:58 PM PDT by Persevero (NUTS)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Same here. Wife and I drove by a fairly new free-standing theater complex and noticed it was empty, for sale.
In recent years they tried dollar movies and other gimmicks. But with streaming, DVDs, etc., people stopped going to see junk.
And the movie industry is the second biggest user of energy


24 posted on 09/03/2016 9:47:30 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: proud American in Canada

Governments, however, are not the way to carry out charities. It is always going to get messed up.


25 posted on 09/03/2016 9:49:23 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: tumblindice

2nd biggest user of energy in CA.
Americans have just about had it with the left coast’s nonsense too.


26 posted on 09/03/2016 9:49:53 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Persevero

His routine care could also have been provided cost free (or near cost free) by the chain of Community Clinics all over the state. My mid-sized community has half a dozen of them.

One of the great blind-spots in the health care debates of the last decade has been “policy makers” who never take the time to find out what’s already in place before they graft on a duplicate program. There was a federal program addressing pre-existing condition exclusions, for example, long before Obamacare.

The question is, has, and will continue to be: “Who’s going to pay for this?” Any program that doesn’t provide a realistic answer to that question will fail. Doesn’t matter what it’s called, or how many pajama boys are touting it.


27 posted on 09/03/2016 9:50:20 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Because... political pride always comes to the fore. This makes a farce of the idea of charity.


28 posted on 09/03/2016 9:51:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: artichokegrower

Soooooo unfair to our middle, working class. SO UNFAIR.

And unfair to doctors. In CA the amount a doc gets for seeing a MediCal patient is only $20 since January. It dropped from $30, which didn’t pay the overhead either. How can doctors still accept these patients?? It costs the doctor personally to see them. Well, the answer is, they cannot. So the MediCal patients are forced to go to the ER. Um, the reason for Obamacare in the first place, right? Get the illegals and poor out of the ER for regular medical help. Ha.


29 posted on 09/03/2016 9:52:54 PM PDT by Yaelle (Liberals, you're not tolerant unless you are comfortable with diversity of opinion.)
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To: Persevero

Our nephew had febrile seizures as an infant. Scary for his parents but they didn’t call an ambulance; they called their doctor and then drove him to urgent care. Good grief.

No money, committed a felony to be here but by all means call a freaking ambulance when your kid has a fever because someone else will pay for it.


30 posted on 09/03/2016 9:53:50 PM PDT by NorthstarMom (God says debt is a curse and children are a blessing, yet we apply for loans and prevent pregnancy.)
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To: Oldexpat

In the meantime young families in the US are working two jobs and eating hot dogs to pay their health insurance.


So bleeping sad. We literally try everything possible at home when we are sick, because we can’t afford to go to a doctor unless nothing else would work. BUT THE ILLEGALS GO FOR EVERY SNIFFLE. FOR FREE.

I’ve told this before, I’ve had 4 c sections. And the last time I shared a room with a woman who spoke no English. She had a c section too. I knew we would be paying for several months to pay off our 20% of the bill. And it steamed me that she probably had hers FOR FREE.


31 posted on 09/03/2016 9:55:38 PM PDT by Yaelle (Liberals, you're not tolerant unless you are comfortable with diversity of opinion.)
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To: Yaelle

I feel that same anger and resentment, too. But we are just racists for not wanting hard working Americans to foot the bill for half the world.


32 posted on 09/03/2016 10:19:29 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Yaelle

I saw a family of south of the border people a few weeks back in Sam’s Club. They were speaking no English. They had a kid in a wheelchair, reclined back, that was obviously *severely* mentally and physically handicapped. What do you think the likelihood is that, that boy is getting all kinds of medical care and “therapy” and services at no cost? But we are supposed to say, “Thank you sir, bring over another.”


33 posted on 09/03/2016 10:26:03 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Balding_Eagle
I guess that makes me an optimist.

I think it will take just 400 years from the collapse of the US before things start to brighten up a bit.

34 posted on 09/03/2016 10:27:56 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: artichokegrower

The government think tanks have created and implemented so many ways to extract the last vestiges of wealth from the middle class. They have succeeded in their goal of wealth redistribution and destruction of the middle class.


35 posted on 09/03/2016 10:37:42 PM PDT by pterional
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To: Drango

America is pretty much done. Government - ie taxpayers - is expected to do everything for everyone, including non citizens.


36 posted on 09/03/2016 11:14:38 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: soycd

Spending money on condoms means they cant spend it on alcohol and tricking out their cars. Or having a billion parties for different meaningless reasons.


37 posted on 09/03/2016 11:15:54 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Rusty0604

We shoild fly all the illegals to cuba for their superior healthcare. They deserve the best. Let them stay, we cant deprive them of the best care in the world.


38 posted on 09/03/2016 11:16:59 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: proud American in Canada

Tagline.


39 posted on 09/03/2016 11:17:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: proud American in Canada

You’re not wrong. My wife had her hours reduced to keep her employer from having to provide insurance thanks to obamacare.


40 posted on 09/03/2016 11:55:48 PM PDT by stillfree? (My My My)
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