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Do Creation Scientists Publish in Mainstream Journals?
Institute for Creation Research ^ | Sept. 2016 | Brian Thomas

Posted on 08/31/2016 2:38:47 PM PDT by fishtank

Do Creation Scientists Publish in Mainstream Journals?

by Brian Thomas, M.S. *

If ICR scientists are “real” scientists, then they should publish in respected, peer-reviewed, mainstream journals, right? In fact, many have.1 But mainstream journal editors’ zeal for naturalism can keep them from fairly analyzing contrasting views on origins—leading them to say “no” to quality creation science.

Science reviewers and journal editors serve as gatekeepers, closing the gate to prevent bad science from reaching the printed page. For example, they are right to reject a submitted article if its conclusions rest more on speculation than on results.2 But they can also close the gate for unscientific reasons.

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1 posted on 08/31/2016 2:38:47 PM PDT by fishtank
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By the way, an FR word search on “journals” turns up some interesting results...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;q=quick;s=journals


2 posted on 08/31/2016 2:40:03 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

Exactly. Given the way “peer review” has been more or less a complete failure in recent years, being denied by a gatekeeper has no bearing whatsoever on the quality of research or science in a paper.


4 posted on 08/31/2016 2:50:56 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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To: fishtank

One of my favorite websites is

http://crev.info/

But, I’m sure you are aware of them.


5 posted on 08/31/2016 2:57:17 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: fishtank
Peer reviewed and published. www.halos.com
6 posted on 08/31/2016 3:31:49 PM PDT by DocRock (And now is the time to fight! Peter Muhlenberg)
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To: fishtank

Good article. I linked to it on Twitter. Thanks.


7 posted on 08/31/2016 3:34:16 PM PDT by refreshed
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To: fishtank

creation science is an oxymoron

there are no creation scientists


8 posted on 08/31/2016 3:48:03 PM PDT by Thibodeaux (Exile Barack, Exile the Wookie, Exile Malia, Exile Shasha)
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To: fishtank

The “mainstream publications” do their best to prevent publishing them.


9 posted on 08/31/2016 3:49:31 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: fishtank
I once spoke with a creation geologist who submitted a paper about billions of straight-shelled nautiloid fossils entombed in a single limestone layer that spans several southwestern U.S. states. The mainstream editor replied that he rejected the paper because it implies that a no-longer-present process best explains this titanic rock layer. It seems he was uncomfortable with the idea that only a flood with enough force to affect the whole globe could leave that many sea creatures stranded on a continent beneath that much lime mud.

If a geography publication received a submission that purported to show the earth was flat then would you expect them to publish that as well?

10 posted on 08/31/2016 3:54:46 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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The editor excluded the paper because they didn’t want to have to explain an inconvenient truth.

The academic community doesn’t just close the gates on their publications. You have to go to specific universities if you want a PhD in archeology and happen to be a Bible believing Christian. One of my friends hit that particular gate. The committees take a dim view of anyone who actually believes the Word of God.

BTW: In the early 1970’s I attended a debate at the University of Oklahoma between creation science proponents from off campus and the head of the Geology and Zoology departments.

The geology prof admitted that one could examine the geological evidence and build old earth models and relatively young earth models. He stated that either worked. But he worked with old earth models because of what he “knew” about biology. That admission effectively took him out of the debate.


11 posted on 08/31/2016 4:15:15 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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The editor excluded the paper because they didn’t want to have to explain an inconvenient truth.

The author of the flat earth paper could say the same thing.

12 posted on 08/31/2016 4:19:06 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Thibodeaux
creation science is an oxymoron there are no creation scientists

Is dat wat Boudreaux done tole you?

Law, he doan no nuffin'!

13 posted on 08/31/2016 4:24:58 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: DoodleDawg

This “flat earth” paper is YOUR straw man! It doesn’t exist except in YOUR mind.

A uniform layer of fossils spanning several states DOES exist. It begs for an explanation. Apparently, people who propose a reasonable explanation which does not line up with your presuppositions must necessarily be excluded from the discussion.

Occam’s Razor would suggest that such a layer was produced in a relatively short amount of time. Since this might be construed to support a world-wide flood, it MUST not be discussed.


14 posted on 08/31/2016 4:28:47 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: fishtank

Naturalism is a religion. Get over it. [It’s is similar to the religion of man-made global warming.]

God is NOT amused by man’s attempts to write Him out of His creation.


15 posted on 08/31/2016 4:34:37 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: fishtank

Is evolution just a creation story? http://www.faithfacts.org/evolution-or-creation/evolution-science-or-creation-story


16 posted on 08/31/2016 4:40:00 PM PDT by grumpa
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To: Thibodeaux
What about a physical scientist who believes in ex nihilo creation -- but has zero problem with a 13+ billion year old universe?
17 posted on 08/31/2016 6:59:13 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias; "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA

Look at Gerald Schroeder’s work on creation


18 posted on 08/31/2016 7:46:21 PM PDT by Cottonbay
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To: Cottonbay
Shroeder (I have his "Genesis and the Big Bang" on the headboard of my bed right now) and I are in agreement on many things.
19 posted on 08/31/2016 10:17:24 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias; "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Cottonbay

Ever go back and read something you wrote and think, “Hey — is that right...?”

LOL!! I just looked at the book: YOU spelled his name right! ‘-)


20 posted on 08/31/2016 10:24:15 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias; "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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