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US vs China war would be ‘intense, destructive, protracted’ (RAND)
news.com.au ^ | AUGUST 17, 2016

Posted on 08/17/2016 4:07:52 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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To: sukhoi-30mki

With a real Commander-in-Chief it would last about four hours and China’s population problem would be lessened.


21 posted on 08/17/2016 7:38:59 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The lesson of Red Dawn: They have more soldiers. We have more bullets.


22 posted on 08/17/2016 7:40:19 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Excellence

War would come suddenly— I believe this is how it will work out:
1. China moves on another nation (Vietnam?)
2. US sends ships
3. In a mix-up there is a battle at sea—US Carrier is sunk.
4. Chinese attack Pearl Harbor and San Diego with nukes
5. Demands that Japan close all US Bases and stay neutral.
6. China and North Korea attack South Korea
7. China rolls into Vietnam—The Vietnamese win some victories but once Haiphong falls it will be over. Troops from USA will help with battle to hold HoChiMen City—but it will fail.
8. a move on Thailand (It will join China) and Taiwan.
9. US will nuke Shanghai and Canton.
10. China will nuke San Francisco, Seattle, Atlanta and New York.
11. Treaty of peace signed—cost 100,000 lives on both sides.


23 posted on 08/17/2016 8:48:10 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Buttons12

Are they walking across the Pacific Ocean to invade? Shanghai to San Francisco requires nine days sailing time one-way at a 25 knot sprint with no port calls; or, twelve hours flight time non-stop coast-to-coast. Logistics is the killer-app of conventional war.

With that said—Alaska’s Aleutian islands are a possible beach-head—the Japanese explored that option.


24 posted on 08/17/2016 8:49:13 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

First move is to sow confusion by subverting massive amounts of computer managed utilities and communications operations. Everything has some component functions off-loaded to remote management, without a viable local paper based fall-over for continuity. The confusion would take months to sort out.


25 posted on 08/17/2016 9:08:35 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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Logistics is the killer-app of conventional war.

It certainly is. Therefore conventional war would be utterly boneheaded. Nuclear war even worse. Such a hideous waste of energy. Gradual creeping takeover is the way to go, especially when you already have over a billion people who are accustomed to being told what to do.

I'm sure you're aware of China's fingers in Africa and South America, as well as here. You could call it economic colonialism, or you could call it investment. You'll never have to call it any sort of hostility.

26 posted on 08/17/2016 9:34:30 AM PDT by Buttons12
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To: central_va

Smart.but these dem leaders won’t ever fight anyone so I guess we just lose.


27 posted on 08/17/2016 4:15:03 PM PDT by major-pelham
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The other option is to build up a huge conventional force that can win on the first punch like Mike Tyson. We cannot “go the distance” anymore.


28 posted on 08/17/2016 4:17:53 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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