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Peace Now leader wants Israel to overthrow the Palestinian Authority
Aruts Sheva ^ | 7/8/16 | Stephen Flatow

Posted on 08/07/2016 4:52:55 PM PDT by Eleutheria5

A veteran leader of the Peace Now movement is apparently calling on Israel to overthrow the Palestinian Authority.

It may seem hard to believe, but that's the plain meaning of an op-ed in the July 29 edition of the New York Jewish Week by Martin I. Bresler, a former Chairman--and current board member--of Americans for Peace Now.

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Peace Now has long functioned almost as a defense attorney for the Palestinian Authority- Peace Now has long functioned almost as a defense attorney for the Palestinian Authority--vigorously demanding Israeli concessions to the PA, while refraining from criticizing the PA's sponsorship of terrorism and its constant incitement against Jews and Israel.

Martin Bresler's op-ed began with the usual litany of denunciations of Israel's behavior. "The occupation is evil," he informed Jewish Week readers. "It is immoral. It is un-Jewish." Israel has become "the oppressor of another people." This "twists the souls" of Israelis, and is "making the entire body [of Israel] sick." It even "feeds anti-Semitism."

But not to worry—Mr. Bresler has a solution. He has a six-step peace plan, and here's step #1: "Israel can announce…that it recognizes that the occupation must end at some point, that it will do so as soon as the security situation permits, and until that time it will administer the West Bank for the benefit of its Palestinian inhabitants and its own safety."

Come again?

Martin Bresler, in the name of Americans for Peace Now, wants Israel to "administer the West Bank for the benefit of its Palestinian inhabitants."

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(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abbas; oslo; pa; peacenow
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Right now, of course, it is the Palestinian Authority which administers 99% of the Palestinian Arab inhabitants of Judea-Samaria (the West Bank). The PA has been doing so since 1995, when then-Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin withdrew Israel's forces from the areas, called A and B, where nearly all of the Palestinians reside. Only 4% (about 50,000) of the Arabs of Judea and Samaria still live in area C under Israeli administration, as do all the Jews.

For Israel now to "administer the West Bank for the benefit of its Palestinian inhabitants," as Bresler proposes, means that Israel would need to overthrow and disband the Palestinian Authority, and resume the pre-1995 policy of occupying and administering the Palestinians.

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Sounds like a good idea to me.

1 posted on 08/07/2016 4:52:55 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5

Peace Now was Israel’s version of Black Lives Matter.


2 posted on 08/07/2016 4:53:57 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Eleutheria5

I didn’t know mozlems could be governed.


3 posted on 08/07/2016 5:01:20 PM PDT by disndat
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To: Eleutheria5

This action would be exactly what Obama is looking for - an excuse to take actoion against Israel.

Obama would jump in immediately on the side of the Palestinians.

He will cut off aid, set up an embargo, set a no-fly zone, etc.

Maybe even send troops in.
Or invite the Iranians to do it for him.


4 posted on 08/07/2016 5:13:25 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Rebublican 50 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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To: Eleutheria5

This guy sounds like a bipolar meshuganah.


5 posted on 08/07/2016 5:14:22 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Eleutheria5

You have to ask yourself: What is the real agenda here? My guess it that they want to the West Bank residents of the PA to vote in Israeli elections. And we all know what THAT means......


6 posted on 08/07/2016 5:26:38 PM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: Eleutheria5

Doesn’t sound good to me. Sounds like extreme bitter resentment will lead to more and more soldiers getting killed.

Push them out far enough for a safe buffer, allow them no access NEAR Israel,


7 posted on 08/07/2016 5:36:16 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Eleutheria5
Just how is peace possible with an enemy sworn to total genocide?

It isn't. Israel needs to buldoze them into the Med, and open a tropical resort!

Gaza is one of the most prime pieces of real estate on the planet, and it's noting but desolation under the tyranny of islam.

8 posted on 08/07/2016 6:06:57 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed,)
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To: Eleutheria5

Maybe Israel should overthrow the Saudi regime. Go to the source.


9 posted on 08/07/2016 6:16:32 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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To: Eleutheria5
This is truly a "when pigs fly" moment (not that I want them to fly over Israel or anything)

Color me shocked! (wait a minute; that could be construed as being racist or something.)

Completely UnexpectedTM!!!
10 posted on 08/07/2016 6:20:57 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Eleutheria5

“Peace now” is a Jew=hating IslamoNazi-serving commie front group for Soros and the Saudi Arabia IslamoNazi dictatorship, staffed by a combination of enemy agents to keep it under control plus “useful idiots”

BOTH BOTH BOTH “Peace now’” and the PLO/”PA” need to be eradicated


11 posted on 08/07/2016 6:45:53 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: Eleutheria5

Peace through Victory.


12 posted on 08/07/2016 6:52:38 PM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: Paladin2

The only people who’d replace them would be people even more aligned with ISIS.


13 posted on 08/07/2016 6:54:09 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: aimhigh

Peace through Victory!! Exactly right!!!


14 posted on 08/07/2016 8:29:31 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: rawcatslyentist

“He makes a dessert and calls it piece.”- Tacitus, sort of


15 posted on 08/08/2016 1:54:46 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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It's a freely elected government. Their President just won a ten year term four years ago. Or was it a four year term ten years ago? What difference does it wait. He doesn't rule Gaza anyway.

Would be good for whatever peaceful Arabs live there. They could even turn in the terrorists. But I doubt Israel has any real interest in ruling them to install another corrupt terror government in a few years.

16 posted on 08/08/2016 6:59:30 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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Rule them to annex the land. If any want to leave, give them an emigration package identical to that given to new olim as an immigration package. Those that stay will enjoy more freedom and prosperity than they ever could in a pali state.


17 posted on 08/08/2016 7:40:46 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Yes, but I doubt that’s what Peace Now is thinking. Wonder what the response to annexation would be if palestinians could vote on it, no violence.


18 posted on 08/08/2016 7:51:26 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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That’s one we’re unlikely to ever know.


19 posted on 08/08/2016 4:15:46 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: SJackson; Eleutheria5

This sounds kinda silly to me at this point. Israel suffered a great deal for the folly of Oslo. What tangible benefit can Israel claim now, 20 years later, for plucking Arafat and the PLO up out of exile in Tunis and dropping them into their own backyard?

And look at the first element of Bresler’s proposal: “Israel to announce it accepts that the occupation must end”. That is what they have announced, accepted, and put into place under Oslo. And part B of step one: “ it will do so as soon as the security situation permits”, which is what it has said all along and says now.

If optics matter, then Bresler’s plan is myopic to Israelis and will be viewed as regressive to almost everyone else. No doubt, Bresler is right and the PA is for now a lost cause. It cannot be an effective partner in peace for a lot of reasons, imo the root of which is that the Palestinians remain clannish - they are not a unified people as many outsiders believe and for which the PA tries to project - and the security forces have never shown a willingness to enforce peace by suppressing its home grown militias against Israel. The central principle of any government is that it must assert a monopoly on the use of force. When clans and gangs and militias are permitted to run wild - and in this case many of them are quiet because they are being paid bribes by the PA - then the government will fall. Not to mention that it doesn’t even have a presence in Gaza, as Hamas ran the PA off with very little effort. This shows the PA to be a paper tiger. But, some form of Palestinian self-rule government will need to be created in its place if Israel really does want separation and 2 states, and I am not sure destroying the PA and trying to build a new one is worth the cost Israel would pay in lives, in money, and in diplomacy. At the very least leaving the PA technocrats in place is probably the lesser evil at this point.

My opinion, if Israel really does want to separate from the Palestinians into 2 states for 2 peoples, is that they should revive an amended form of the Bush doctrine. Where it should amend imo is that they should agree to unconditional talks any time any place. But, as per the Bush doctrine, the first step has to be 100% effort by the PA to squash violence and incitement. They can talk without condition, but they will talk about ending violence and incitement before any concrete steps can further occur. This would imo give Israel a diplomatic upper hand and put the spotlight on the PA.

Of course, I say this with a bit of chagrin since I believe the PA cannot enforce peace. But there will be a time, and soon, when the PLO old guard can not longer lead the PA. Arafat is dead, Abbas is old, and there is little visibility beyond him as to who will lead. IMO when Arafat died the potential of Oslo died with it. Arafat promised an end to violence and a conversion from terrorist to statesman. He lied. And when he failed Oslo failed. But when Abbas falls you have Hamas, ISIS, Hezbullah and others on the edges who will make the situation for Israel and the Palestinian common man is precarious. The PA will likely fall into internecine fighting over “the spoils”. Tax remittances, trade routes, job permits, etc are all controlled by Israel and legally only the PA is entitled to receive them and only the PA can dole them out to its technocrats, security forces and allied clans. Getting their house in order after Abbas will be a matter of urgency for tens of thousands of direct dependents. At that point maybe some form of realpolitik will dawn on the Palestinians and maybe they will get serious, but it will have to come from the grass roots. None of these rival groups have peace in mind. This is why, imo, Israel has little to lose by shifting gears and removing preconditions to talks. Israel will need additional diplomatic cover and turning the tables a little more to emphasize the root of the conflict is the way to go now, imo, because they will need foreign diplomatic efforts behind them and not going around them to finance groups like Hamas etc outside of the Oslo framework. Israel needs to prop up the technocrats in order to isolate any future pretenders.


20 posted on 08/08/2016 11:29:23 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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