Posted on 08/05/2016 9:10:04 AM PDT by fwdude
With the numerous ways elections have been illegitimately influenced/bought in the past, it is a vigorous debate what measures should be employed to best combat one side stacking the odds in favor of their candidate/issue.
My suggestion is not new, but is often neglected. It is statistically suspect that so many elections, notably key ones on which much is at stake, have such razor-thin margins of victory. I say suspect, but it is more likely statistically impossible that an entire state with a voting population of many millions, can end up with a few hundred or thousand votes between sides (Florida, 2000.) This is possible only because of constant updates on the contest being broadcast incessantly by the media, letting both sides know what is "needed" to prevail in the count.
If only one election integrity measure could be implemented, I would opt for a mandated "double-blind" system of results reporting, only after ALL, and I mean ALL ballots, whether mailed, early, in-person, etc. are counted and remitted. Whether significant fraud is involved or not, the possibility of ongoing fraud would be greatly diminished in the vast majority of races where "making up a trailing count" cannot be manufactured (mostly by dems "finding" ballots) during races where the margins are 5 points or greater. This was beautifully demonstrated in the 2011 Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice race between conservative incumbent David Prosser and radical leftist challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg, where the presumably final count had Kloppenburg "winning" by a couple hundred votes after a back-and-forth count lead battle throughout the evening. Later, a district in Waukesha submitted a late, but legitimate (after much debate and inspection), count of over 14,000 ballots which were not submitted as timely, putting Prosser over the victory line. Recounts and canvassing added votes to both sides, but not enough to overcome Prosser's victory. The left was livid over their fraud not overcoming this seemingly marginal obstacle, but a double-blind count would have resulted in the same victory.
No one should know the score until the score is actually in. Independent exit polls are fine, but the one poll that matters should be fraud-proof.
Yes, abstain from voting.
Massive turnout is our best defense against expected Democrat vote fraud.
If the 43% who did not bother to vote last time show up for Trump, he cannot lose.
Now we have to live with not only electronic machines that are allowing the regular, standard fraud like letting illegals vote and dead people vote. but now "fractional votes" (who in God's name would have OKed that?)
Massive turnout is nice, but massive can include Obamadrones as well.
If the system is faulty, that won’t help in the final analysis.
shouls=should, obviously.
Job #1 is to get rid of the e-voting machines.
Everything needs a paper trail, and that paper trail should be available to any skeptic to verify its integrity and accuracy.
148% of registered voters voted in Wood County, Ohio.
110% of registered voters voted in Cuyahoga County, Ohio.
Think about the logic of these figures. And guess for whom they voted, exclusively? Wanna’ guess?
Just how in the hell do you stop this when they don’t even need IDs?
How is that even statistically possible?
The fraud is not at the election.
The fraud is in the rules for registration.
People are falsely registered. Absentee ballots are falsely filled out. No proof of citizenship is required to register.
Set up videos far outside voting areas and see the discrepancy of people entering to votes. Places like Philly and Cleveland could have huge deviations.
Volunteer to become a polling place worker.
Agreed, but fraud permeates the system at all levels.
People are falsely registered. Absentee ballots are falsely filled out. No proof of citizenship is required to register.
True, but that still doesn't answer why so many critical elections are won only by razor-thin margins. I firmly believe that the nation as a whole overwhelmingly votes conservative; even those states that are most leftist likely don't have that much of an over-ruling leftist majority, like California.
Making the supposedly close races less close by a double-blind count would prevent "election engineering" by those races which wouldn't be close except for Democrat shenanigans.
That would be cast as "raaaacist" and you would be crucified.
Produce ID cards at the voting locations for those without ID cards. Search the information for people who signed up for multiple ID cards.
I myself do not believe it is possible to 100% eliminate election fraud without having an immutable tie to the voter. In other words, eliminate the anonymity of voting.
Even if there was, for example, a checksum taken at the originating polling place and transmitted along with the bulk results to a central tabulation location...a mere 1 vote change would drastically change the checksum (precisely the purpose of a checksum) and cause all manner of chaos even in cases where a nominal 1-2-3 vote sub-trivial difference occurred. Yet some would say that such a small difference might well be a sign that fraud was being committed in some other way and I have no counterargument to that.
There is no system comprised of rules and procedures that I can think of that is not able to be gamed.
I can vaguely imagine an improved system where votes would be checksummed and counted at the source, while being transmitted to a remote location and the results compared on a real time basis. This would potentially alert somebody or something to fraud as it was occurring. Now all that would have to happen is to corrupt that comparing authority.
The problem is that an insider with programming knowledge and intent can theoretically game any devised system.
Additionally, after “preliminary” election results come in, there is utterly zero impetus to go back and invalidate results.
Have every media outlet exposed in DNC e-mails file a sworn affidavit to the Federal Elections Commission detailing every contribution to federal candidates, either cash or in kind. Then prosecute them for lying.
ink finger day of voting only, except for military.
Voter fraud is a Huge pervasive problem across the country.
However, and even larger more difficult problem to detect, investigate and solve, is rigged digital vote machines!
That issue has been in the news this week, and the White house went so far as to release a Cybersecurity Incident response PDD that pertains to vital electronic infrastructure, Including: state owned electronic voting machines.
It’s classic commie Cloward-Piven overwhelm the system corruption.
1. DNC orchestrates polling station human voter fraud across the country.
2. DNC, Soros, PTB orchestrate massive electronic voting machine tampering via undetectable altered count algorithm programs.
See the work of Bev Harris and recent DEFCON workshop for further evidence this is a clear and present danger to our country.
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