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The USAF does not believe in the CAS mission.

That's why the Marines have always provided their own. Often with aircraft long past their use-by date.

The Army would do well to do the same.

Once air supremacy is established, CAS can be provided by Cessnas.

1 posted on 08/04/2016 6:18:44 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner
The USAF does not believe in the CAS mission.

These days, the USAF is a social club 'led' by a bunch of sissified pantywaist Generals. Close Air Support has never been "cool" enough and besides it might conflict with Happy Hour at the 'O' Club.

(Before you flame - I'm an AF Vet, and not at all proud of what has happened to the AF.)

2 posted on 08/04/2016 6:27:32 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (WeÂ’re going to raise taxes on the Middle Class! - HRC Aug 3, 2016)
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F-35 cannon only has the bullets (well, cannon shells) to fire about 4 seconds from its on-board Gatling gun. Then it has to return to base (if NOT hit by AA fire!) to reload.

A pod-mounted Gatling is available, but isn’t flying yet (deployed) and has only another few seconds of ammo. A pod slows the aircraft and removes much of the stealth needed against ground-to-air missiles and other high-end aircraft.

Too many low-level attack planes in Vietnam (also ran by Pentagon “analysis” by McNamara’s “team” of experts ) were lost to “dumb” ground fire. The USAF generals don’t promote ground attack pilots, and so don’t have ground attack pilots in the Pentagon to argument the gee-whiz experts playing computer games against computer opponents.


3 posted on 08/04/2016 6:28:24 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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If only the AF would give the Marines the A-10!


4 posted on 08/04/2016 6:29:06 AM PDT by null and void (Has there ever been a death associated with the Clintons that *wasn't* beneficial to them?)
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Low and slow with hundreds and hundreds of piercing bullets from an armored carrier is not an F35. IMO, it is a silk pony.


5 posted on 08/04/2016 6:33:53 AM PDT by Gaffer (Paint your face, gird yourself and stand with your backsides to the enemy.)
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“Mindful of the aphorism ‘willful waste makes woeful want,’ the Marine Corps preserved its F-18s in the boneyard just in case it ever needed them again.”

Bravo Zulu, Marine Corps!

Maybe our country’s motto should be changed to “willful waste makes woeful want.”


7 posted on 08/04/2016 6:38:24 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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I believe that the F-35 will eventually be a good platform (as the Abrams tank after years of scathing criticism) but it is going to take more time, effort, and money than they expect.

That said, destroying the A-10Cs sitting in the boneyard is CRIMINAL. Someone should be brought to task for that.


12 posted on 08/04/2016 6:43:57 AM PDT by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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"Once air supremacy is established, CAS can be provided by Cessnas. "

Or Pipers:


16 posted on 08/04/2016 6:55:54 AM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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Give the A-10s to the Marines and the Army.
19 posted on 08/04/2016 7:12:26 AM PDT by TYVets
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We just gave hundreds of millions of dollars to Boeing to re-wing A-10s, and now we're trashing them. Your Government tax dollars at work.
20 posted on 08/04/2016 7:12:40 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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23 posted on 08/04/2016 7:15:39 AM PDT by McGruff (How about investigating the donations to the Clinton Foundation)
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25 posted on 08/04/2016 7:24:26 AM PDT by Pelham (Best.Election.Ever)
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Here's that Cessna you mentioned...


27 posted on 08/04/2016 7:28:50 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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Bull ,remember Obama is still around with all his lies


28 posted on 08/04/2016 7:40:55 AM PDT by butlerweave
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Why not just turn the existing A-10’s over to the Army and Marines? They can provide their own CAS.


30 posted on 08/04/2016 8:00:36 AM PDT by ModelBreaker (')
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Too bad. The A-10 is a fearsome, awesome, fighting machine the ground troops can easily relate to.


33 posted on 08/04/2016 8:16:08 AM PDT by RideForever
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Is the A-10 a valuable asset?

It's still here after all these wars, years and beers, so I'm going to say "Yes".

Did the AV-8B replace the A-10? No. It did not.

Will the F-35 replace what the A-10 brings to any fight? No, it will not.

The F-35 might bring some quicker, but it won't replace what the A-10 is packing.

Can the A-10 do what the F-35 can do? No, it cannot.

The A-10 was not and is not fit for that duty and that is not in its job description.

So, why are we arguing?

A lot of people have a car and a pickup in their garage and I think there's room in our military's hanger for both the A-10 and the F-35.

It's always nice to have the right tool on hand for the job at hand, right?

So, why throw away a perfectly good tool like the A-10 and replace it with a shiny new one, when you can have both in your tool box and bag of tricks?

40 posted on 08/04/2016 9:04:34 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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Obama’s military strategy is to deplete the military of all its technology and munitions.


46 posted on 08/04/2016 11:49:24 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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