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Sen. Tim Scott: Yes, I've Been Stopped By The Cops Before...Even Here On Capitol Grounds
Townhall.com ^ | July 15, 2016 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 07/15/2016 9:17:52 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: MNDude

And these types of things happen to African Americans (well dressed not) all too often


61 posted on 07/15/2016 11:32:25 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Kickass Conservative

There was an incident not too many years ago where Cynthia McKinney was asked for ID by a Capitol Policeman and she slapped him. When the details came out, it turned out that McKinney wasn’t wearing her pin. The officer had no idea who she was, nor did she have a pin on as ID. She claimed that it was racial profiling and that every officer should know every member of Congress by sight.

There is a new pin for each Congress, so it changes every two years. It is easier for a Capitol Police officer to know what the pins (one for the House and one for the Senate) looks like than to know what 535 members look like.

It’s also why almost every Congressman and Senator wears their pins all the time they are on Capitol Hill.

That Scott was stopped, while wearing a pin, and asked for additional ID is very unusual.


62 posted on 07/15/2016 11:48:04 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

When did it happen?

Scott was a mid-term replacement for a sitting senator. A new face without a freshman class should attract attention. And, was the security guy also black?


63 posted on 07/15/2016 11:55:56 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

His speech is the first I have heard of the incident.

Too many believe that the tales of blacks are false because... well, because they don’t want to believe them.

Even when a conservative, tea party supporting Senator says that these things happen to him... well, he must be a sellout, a traitor to the conservative cause, drinking the Potomac Kool-Aid.

It is just not possible, in the minds of many, that blacks do indeed face extra scrutiny, extra suspicion, and deal with extra harassment.

But then you have the people who say that all blacks should face that type of behavior because of the behavior of many other blacks.

I’m a conservative, and I believe in personal liberty, personal responsibility, and personal responsibility.

Just as I am not responsible for those who held slave 150 years ago, Tim Scott is not responsible for the crimes that other blacks commit.

Tim Scott, and all other blacks, should be treated as individuals without pre-judged based on the color of their skin.

Is America the most racist country on Earth? No, in fact I would put it near the bottom of countries on the list of racism issues. Does that mean that blacks don’t run into racism on a regular basis? No, they still do.

So on one side we have people who believe that nothing has changed since the days of slavery and Jim Crow laws.

They are wrong. Very, very wrong.

On the other side we have people who believe that any charges of racism are completely made up and overblown.

They are wrong. Very, very wrong.

We have made huge, giant, great strides toward the fixing the problems of racism in this country. Immense strides.

At the same time, there is still more work to be done.

The current President and the whole BLM movement have set back much of the work done.


64 posted on 07/15/2016 12:08:45 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
I’m a conservative, and I believe in personal liberty, personal responsibility, and personal accountability. Ugh.
65 posted on 07/15/2016 12:10:05 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: Kaslin

The effects of blacks doing 800% more crimes than others does also effect the other great people among them.
If this were Islam with terror we’d be suggesting quiet Muslims speak up as a community and call for a change in their community.

Same here, a call for doing less crime and a call for all to cooperate with police.


66 posted on 07/15/2016 12:13:57 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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There are a lot of people in this thread that cannot agree with a black man even when he is on our side.


67 posted on 07/15/2016 12:19:02 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who died.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

So when did he stop beating his wife?


68 posted on 07/15/2016 12:20:05 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who died.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius; thorvaldr

Not rare at all.

New hire?

New Senator or Representative?

The guards (police officers) have to verify the identity of all visitors and the pin counts as one part of the ID process, and if the police know the person and see the pin, no issue.

Don’t recognize the guy, have to verify the person wearing the pin is actually the guy that is supposed to be wearing the pin, you know, a pin that is easy to be copied (or stolen), or as one black female representative from Texas that “loaned” her pin to her aide so the aide could get in and out quickly as she forgot some paper.

I’ve see representatives get stopped and asked for more ID because the guard did not recognize them, after all, there are 435 voting representative and 100 senators, and that means it takes time to know who is who, to memorize 535 faces (at a minimum), not easy.

Add that to the fact every two years the representatives in the House stand for election and every two years one-third of the senate is up for re-election. . .and not all make it.

New faces means they have to learn the new people.

New or old faces, hard to recognize anyway, as they dress differently at times, hair may be different, grow a beard, whatever, change clothes in their office to go to various meets in various locations in DC, this is not like it is a bunch of buddies that hang-out and know well who is who.

I’m actually impressed this doesn’t happen more often, as I used to make regular visits to Capitol Hill and I could not recognize immediately some of the elected officials, as they were unkempt and not wearing make-up. . .don’t look much like their official photo or what they looked like all made up on TV.

Don’t even get me started on Interns. . .their sense of entitlement is legendary: http://dcinterns.blogspot.com/


69 posted on 07/15/2016 12:22:48 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Jarhead9297

See Post 69.


70 posted on 07/15/2016 12:25:48 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

“Does that mean that blacks don’t run into racism on a regular basis? No, they still do”

And Whites, too. . and many times it is blatant and legal (Affirmative Action, 8A contracting, etc)


71 posted on 07/15/2016 12:34:04 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Kaslin
"I have felt the anger, the frustration, the sadness and the humiliation that comes with feeling like you're being targeted for nothing more than just being yourself," Scott said in a powerful floor speech reflecting upon the killings of police and by police that have shaken the nation.

I wonder if Sen. Scott directs any of that anger and frustration he feels at the disproportionate number of black men engaging in violence and lawlessness on a daily basis.

Maybe if he did a ride along with the DC police for a few nights he wouldn't feel so humiliated engaging with them.

72 posted on 07/15/2016 12:38:46 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: MNDude

The police have gotten a pass by conservatives. There are corrupt police departments and cops.


73 posted on 07/15/2016 12:52:09 PM PDT by TakebackGOP
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To: i_robot73

I will give the CHPD a break here. Scott had probably been just elected and no one knew him. He hasn’t been in the Senate very long.


74 posted on 07/15/2016 12:58:07 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

A DC cop told me once that in roughly 30-40% of routine traffic stops the driver had other issues (i.e., warrants, etc.)


75 posted on 07/15/2016 1:02:04 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: wardaddy; Tupelo

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“On November 6, 1875, Revels, as a Republican, wrote a letter to Republican President Ulysses S. Grant that was widely reprinted. Revels denounced Ames and the carpetbaggers for manipulating the black vote for personal benefit, and for keeping alive wartime hatreds:

‘Since reconstruction, the masses of my people have been, as it were, enslaved in mind by unprincipled adventurers, who, caring nothing for country, were willing to stoop to anything no matter how infamous, to secure power to themselves, and perpetuate it.....

‘My people have been told by these schemers, when men have been placed on the ticket who were notoriously corrupt and dishonest, that they must vote for them; that the salvation of the party depended upon it; that the man who scratched a ticket was not a Republican. This is only one of the many means these unprincipled demagogues have devised to perpetuate the intellectual bondage of my people....

‘The bitterness and hate created by the late civil strife has, in my opinion, been obliterated in this state, except perhaps in some localities, and would have long since been entirely obliterated, were it not for some unprincipled men who would keep alive the bitterness of the past, and inculcate a hatred between the races, in order that they may aggrandize themselves by office, and its emoluments, to control my people, the effect of which is to degrade them.


76 posted on 07/15/2016 2:35:37 PM PDT by Pelham (Barack Obama, representing Islam since 2008)
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