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Week of Tragedy Reveals Our Ideological Blind Spots
Townhall.com ^ | July 13, 2016 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 07/13/2016 12:25:25 PM PDT by Kaslin

It seems almost ghoulish to look for a silver lining in the dark cloud that blanketed the nation last week. But I think there was one. The killings by police in Minnesota and Louisiana, quickly followed by the killings of police in Dallas, knocked the lazy certainty out of almost everybody.

At least for a moment, antagonists on either side of polarizing issues could see beyond the epistemic horizon of their most comfortable talking points. Black Lives Matter activists thanked the police for their protection and sacrifice. Conservative Republicans, most notably House Speaker Paul Ryan and former Speaker Newt Gingrich, spoke movingly about race in America. Gun rights activists were dismayed that Philando Castile, the man shot by a police officer in Minnesota, had followed all of the rules -- he had a gun permit, cooperated with the officer, etc. -- and was still killed. Liberals who insist that rhetoric from their political opponents inspires violence were forced to consider whether rhetoric from their allies might have helped inspire the shooter in Dallas.

It was a welcome change. "National conversations" are usually efforts to bully everyone into accepting a single narrative when the reality is that, in this country of more than 300 million, many narratives can be in conflict and still be legitimate.

I don't doubt that representatives of each tribe will eventually retreat back to their ideological bunkers, but before they do, let's explore some blind spots, on both sides.

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (who did not lose his lazy certainty) spent the weekend attacking the Black Lives Matter movement as "racist." He wants people to focus on the fact that most black murder victims die at the hands of other blacks. That's true, and tragic, and fairly irrelevant.

Conservatives, of all people, should understand that misdeeds committed by agents of the state are categorically different from the same acts committed by normal citizens. A father who slaps his son for no good reason, however wrong that may be, is very different from a cop who slaps a citizen for no good reason.

This country was created, in part, because the founders were outraged by arguably slight infractions -- taxes on tea! -- against their liberties and dignity. Is it really so unfathomable that African-American citizens should be outraged or distrustful of government when they have good reason to believe the state is murdering young black men?

It should be said that the data do not actually corroborate this belief -- at least not as clearly as one might think. Harvard economist Roland Fryer found that when black suspects encounter the police, they are slightly less likely to get shot than white suspects. He called it "the most surprising result I have found in my entire career." Fryer, by the way, is African-American.

But Fryer also found that blacks are disproportionately victims of bias when it comes to non-lethal use of force by police, such as use of pepper spray, manhandling and the like. Is it so unreasonable to assume that citizens who experience such bias would also believe that it extends into police shootings? Particularly when such tragedies receive so much attention in social media and the press?

In other words, if blacks experience being unfairly stopped, frisked and manhandled, is it really nuts for them to think the unfairness extends to shootings as well?

Liberals, meanwhile, have their own blinders when it comes to the police.

Although they have seemingly boundless faith in the power and nobility of government, many draw a line around cops, creating one of the strangest ironies of modern liberalism: Many of those most eager to support new laws and new regulations suddenly lose faith when it comes to the government employees charged with enforcing them. It's particularly amazing given that law enforcement personnel typically receive far more training than your typical bureaucrat or legislator.

Another blind spot: Most of the problems with black homicide -- by police or otherwise -- take place in cities run by Democrats for generations, yet Republican racism is always to blame.

Just as conservatives need to recognize the ills of police abuse, liberals need to acknowledge that the first obligation of the state is to defend the safety and property of its citizens, and that nothing undermines the legitimacy of the law more than vilifying those sworn to uphold it.

I doubt the humility we've seen this week will last, but that it emerged at all is a source of hope.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: blacklivesmatter; dallas; liberal
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1 posted on 07/13/2016 12:25:26 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
"Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (who did not lose his lazy certainty) spent the weekend attacking the Black Lives Matter movement as "racist." He wants people to focus on the fact that most black murder victims die at the hands of other blacks. That's true, and tragic, and fairly irrelevant."

Jonah, you ignorant slut.

2 posted on 07/13/2016 12:30:31 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Kaslin
I usually agree with Jonah Goldberg, but I think he's off-base here. We don't yet what really happened with the two men who were killed by police officers. There will be thorough investigations and if it turns out the cops behaved improperly, you can bet their careers, and, basically, their lives, will be over. In contrast, we know that the five police officers were murdered by a black racist who was inspired by Black Lives Matter. I agreed with every word Rudy Giuliani has said over the past five days. Black Lives Matter is a racist group that incites violence against the police.
3 posted on 07/13/2016 12:33:26 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: Kaslin

A swishy summary of elite emotional response here.

It has nothing to do with reality.


4 posted on 07/13/2016 12:35:00 PM PDT by donna (No one should be allowed to become a citizen or even a resident if they support Sharia Law.)
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To: Kaslin

I’m pretty much ignoring the cucks of National Review these days....


5 posted on 07/13/2016 12:37:43 PM PDT by Enchante (Hillary's new campaign slogan: "Guilty as hell, free as a bird!! Laws are for peasants!")
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To: fieldmarshaldj
That's true, and tragic, and fairly irrelevant.

Only when you're doubling down on unilaterally setting the "terms of debate."

6 posted on 07/13/2016 12:39:00 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: utahagen

There had been reports that one of the one guys, that was killed by the policeman did not have a gun permit as he had claimed. I don’t know if it was the one in Baton Rouge, or the other one in Minnesota


7 posted on 07/13/2016 12:43:49 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needI have beeed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Kaslin

Cuck says what?


8 posted on 07/13/2016 12:44:04 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: Kaslin

ESAD Goldberg. ESAD.


9 posted on 07/13/2016 12:52:15 PM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I refuse to read beyond that statement.

Black-on-black crime is TOTALLY relevant, because it is a major source of interactions between police and perps. Cut down on BoB crime, reduce interactions with police, reduce officer-involved shootings, gain respect for the black community.

Why is this so difficult to understand?


10 posted on 07/13/2016 12:52:44 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Kaslin

Jonah used to be good.

He’s a younger George Will. And basically still in the closet as “I’m pretending I’m not a Democrat”.


11 posted on 07/13/2016 12:55:43 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The official language of the United States should be Arabic. It's clear that our government is.)
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Paul Ryan is a conservative and blacks “have good reason to believe the state is murdering young black men?”

Drooling moron.


12 posted on 07/13/2016 1:06:58 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

He was paid to write this, that makes him a whore, sluts work for free.


13 posted on 07/13/2016 1:13:12 PM PDT by Impy (Never Shillery)
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To: Chaguito

‘Rats need to get Right with the Law. From Hussein and H->! on down.


14 posted on 07/13/2016 1:15:14 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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To: Kaslin
Conservatives, of all people, should understand that...

Still amazed that the post-American cheap-foreign-labor globalist donor class shills at NRO managed to steal the label "conservative" and apply it to themselves.

This is basically a "moral equivalence" argument in which Goldberg tries to find something, anything among the BLM lies to stick on cops and white Americans, so he can lecture both sides and appear morally smug and superior.

Fryer also found that blacks are disproportionately victims of bias when it comes to non-lethal use of force by police, such as use of pepper spray, manhandling and the like.

Oh really? And did the study evaluate whether blacks are disproportionately aggressive and uncooperative when confronted by police, which would explain the non-lethal use of force? No? Of course not.

15 posted on 07/13/2016 1:40:30 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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“There will be thorough investigations and if it turns out the cops behaved improperly, you can bet their careers, and, basically, their lives, will be over.”

Correction: even if the officers behaved entirely properly their careers and the lives they used to have will be over.

Just ask Darren Wilson.

And as for blacks being “disproportionately” manhandled by police - that comes down to the disproportionate chip on the shoulder attitude and childish non-compliance.

For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktryILbNZqg

What does this dope think ? That if Slager and the other officer can’t pull him out of the car they are going to let him go ?


16 posted on 07/13/2016 1:45:22 PM PDT by Reverend Wright (UK out of the EU; UN out of the USA !)
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To: Kaslin

There was no tragedy, that implies an act of Fate; there was only Infamy.


17 posted on 07/13/2016 2:02:08 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Kaslin

Jonah used to be a good read. He went leftie a long time ago. F him.


18 posted on 07/13/2016 2:22:39 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Meet the New Boss

Quote:

“......so he can lecture both sides and appear morally smug and superior. “

Text book definition of a “liberal.”


19 posted on 07/13/2016 2:38:27 PM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Gun rights activists were dismayed that Philando Castile, the man shot by a police officer in Minnesota, had followed all of the rules -- he had a gun permit, cooperated with the officer, etc. -- and was still killed.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? I thought all of this was discredited?

20 posted on 07/13/2016 3:00:01 PM PDT by Hardastarboard
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