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Owner of stolen truck shoots alleged thief during scuffle (NM - Then arrested)
KRQE 13 News, Albuquerque ^ | July 9, 2016 | Candace Hopkins

Posted on 07/09/2016 8:15:44 PM PDT by CedarDave

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (KRQE) – Two people were arrested after a shooting over a stolen truck Friday.

22-year-old Joshua Ortega is facing charges for allegedly stealing a truck and aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, but he’s not the only one charged.

The owner of that truck used the cell phone to track the vehicle to a neighborhood near Paradise and Eagle Ranch Thursday. He spotted his truck and called police, but the truck was driven away before they arrived.

Then Friday morning the owner saw the truck again. That’s when the truck’s owner, Christopher Martinez, told officers he took out his gun and demanded Ortega give the truck back.

There was a scuffle, and Martinez told police he feared for his life, so he shot Ortega. He was hit in the arm but was not seriously injured.

Martinez says Ortega took off in the truck. Ortega drove to a nearby doctor’s office on Golf Course seeking help.

Saturday morning in court it was revealed that Ortega has been arrested numerous times this year alone for car theft.

“This is his fourth auto theft case in 2016 alone, as well as the pending shoplifting case. We do find Mr. Ortega is a possible danger to the community as well as a possible flight risk,” said a court background official.

The owner of the truck and shooter, Christopher Martinez, was also arrested for aggravated battery with a deadly weapon and aggravated assault.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; US: New Mexico
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It's a no-win situation. Rely on short-handed and over-worked police to protect your property, or do it yourself. Either way you lose in today's America.
1 posted on 07/09/2016 8:15:44 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave

The guy is obviously guilty —

—of showing up the cops as less than competent.


2 posted on 07/09/2016 8:20:55 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: CedarDave

The only state where you would not be going to jail in this situation is Texas.

Here we are allowed to shoot someone fleeing with your property.

I would never do so. But it is good to know the law is on my side if there was ever a grey area.


3 posted on 07/09/2016 8:22:09 PM PDT by TheTimeOfMan (Three Percenter - Cruz/West)
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4 posted on 07/09/2016 8:22:39 PM PDT by CedarDave (Radical Muslims want to kill you. Moderate Muslims want radical Muslims to kill you.)
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22-year-old Joshua Ortega is facing charges for allegedly stealing a truck and aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, but he’s not the only one charged.

Seems justified to exercise one’s right of self defense right there...


5 posted on 07/09/2016 8:23:17 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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They should not charge the guy for this.


6 posted on 07/09/2016 8:26:45 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: TheTimeOfMan

If they are leaving you in the desert to die...?

If they are fleeing and shooting at you as they leae?

If they try running you over with your vehicle?

Never say never.


7 posted on 07/09/2016 8:27:57 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: CedarDave

Why can’t I get jury duty on a trial like this? I would let the truck owner walk and would push the jury to award the owner for duress and emotional damage.

The fact that he is being charged for attempting to retrieve his stolen property is outrageous.


8 posted on 07/09/2016 8:29:18 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: CedarDave

Any lawyer that could not get this guy off shouldn’t have a law degree. One of the gun rights groups should offer to take his case.


9 posted on 07/09/2016 8:31:26 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: TheTimeOfMan

sounds like “there was a scuffle and he feared for his life” so he wasn’t shot specifically over property. I believe he had a right to approach and speak to the driver of his stolen vehicle but it gets murky after that.


10 posted on 07/09/2016 8:32:19 PM PDT by RC one
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To: CedarDave

What a nightmare for the truck owner who said he feared for his life. This seems to work very well for others. Maybe they have video that shows otherwise.


11 posted on 07/09/2016 8:35:16 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I will take my chances on any jury in Texas with the exception of Austin, Texas.


12 posted on 07/09/2016 8:42:12 PM PDT by cpdiii (DECKHAND ROUGHNECK MUDMAN GEOLOGIST PILOT PHARMACIST LIBERTARIAN , CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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What the heck?!?!?

This is New Mexico, not New Jersey or New York.


13 posted on 07/09/2016 9:17:16 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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They should not charge the guy for this.

He'd have to change his name to Hillary Clinton, and run for president.

14 posted on 07/09/2016 9:24:04 PM PDT by kiryandil (Hillary Clinton is not sophisticated enough to understand the Bill of Rights, either.)
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To: kiryandil

I have my card printed up.

“I am Hillary Clinton” next to the monopoly open bird cage.

It will be presented.


15 posted on 07/09/2016 9:26:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: CedarDave
Owner of stolen truck shoots alleged thief during scuffle (NM - Then arrested)

Another example of the usefulness of Jury Nullification...

16 posted on 07/09/2016 9:29:15 PM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: CedarDave

People are just getting fed up. It is getting like the wild west out there and authorities want us to sit back and let criminals run wild.


17 posted on 07/09/2016 9:31:12 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: CedarDave

The cops who arrested Mr. Martinez, the truck’s owner, acted stupidly.


18 posted on 07/09/2016 9:37:07 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Ban muslims, NOT guns.....Register liberals, NOT guns)
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He drew his gun before approaching the thief.

Wouldn't be surprised if the thief claims he was afraid for his life !

19 posted on 07/09/2016 9:57:12 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: TheTimeOfMan

Yes, in our house the agreement is that we won’t shoot anyone running away with our property. However, confront us with force and all bets are off.


20 posted on 07/09/2016 10:00:56 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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