Posted on 06/29/2016 12:44:10 PM PDT by Kaslin
Years ago, in another lifetime, I flew the mighty F-4S Phantom II in the jet route structure. Several times I flew high enough for the engine exhaust to condense in the minus 60°F atmosphere. At 30,000 feet, I’d look in the mirrors on the canopy bow and watch a pair of thick contrails swirl behind me, laying down a set of unmistakable tracks proving that I was no longer just turning jet fuel into jet noise but I was leaving a trail visible for all to see for miles and miles. Some people on the ground, primarily those on the political left, have suggested my contrails were actually “chemtrails,” that they were some wild Petri dish concoction consisting of chemical or biological agents that were being deliberately sprayed for some sinister purpose, like a Bond villain, on an ignorant general public. I was shocked to learn that somehow the enlisted guy who refueled my jet with JP-5 was in on the conspiracy and was dispensing some nefarious additional chemicals from his R-11 fuel truck. When I became aware of the “chemtrail controversy” years later, it proved there are some strange people in America. That when you don’t have enough facts or understanding of the basic science of condensation, I guess you make up something. Who doesn’t love a good conspiracy when the facts are just boring?
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Anecdotal vs anecdotal. Guess its a draw then.
Because every jet flying today is like an f4. And doesnt have room for modifications. And every jet like his had the same reason to be flying.
Yup case closed.
What about low-altitude trails where jets trail from areas on the wing that aren’t engine-mounts, or the trails falls from these heights in a shower ?
Excellent article.
My two brothers, both detectives in NY, had incidents concerning this. The first said that night a fax came into the precinct to look for a stolen boat off long island that a missile was launched from.
The second fought with me for four years saying the government wouldn’t cover it up. Then he met an FBI diver who told him yes it was a missile and they found the shell of the SAM.
Afterwards he told me that the flight was not supposed to be Air France. Air Israel was delayed on the runway and Air France took it’s place.
It’s easy for the government to lie to us.
In order for a Democracy to function, the voters have to know the truth.
The Press can try to explain away their dereliction with Democrats, but it just shows that they actually hate freedom.
This part I liked, actually, for a different reason:
[ I was shocked to learn that somehow the enlisted guy who refueled my jet with JP-5 was in on the conspiracy and was dispensing some nefarious additional chemicals from his R-11 fuel truck. When I became aware of the “chemtrail controversy” years later, it proved there are some strange people in America. ]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBzx_3eOyZA&feature=youtu.be&t=150s
Watch all the way to the end. Notice Tavis Smiley was “moderating”.
Did you mean “not supposed to be going to France” since Trans World Airlines 800 was the impacted plane?
Sorry people, it’s been a few years.
The flat earth and chemtrail people (most of them) pimp that junk because they get a ton of hits on YouTube, which equals money.
Heck, I even watch some of those late at night for the entertainment value.
On July 17, 1996 the Clintons gave us a fairy tale story of bad wiring to cover up the shooting down of TWA flight 800 by muslim terrorists.
On September 16, 2012 Susan Rice went on national TV with Hillary Clinton's fairy tale story of an innocuous internet video to cover up the muslim terrorist Benghazi attack on September 11.
No problem. Sometimes one can slip; I do too.
I’m wondering if I used to see this plane in St. Louis once in awhile. I did some contracting back in the 1990’s and there was always a Paris-bound 747 filling up at one of the gates near me.
I used to have a lot of miles on TWA I never used. Actually thought about going to Paris since they were good for a couple round-trips to Europe first class.
Maybe I dodged a bullet (or a missile). Guess I’ll never know.
How about when you open your Pepsi and the interior space of the bottle shows condensation?
To believe in chemtrails one must believe that airlines would willingly add several hundred pounds to their planes in the form of equipment and then even more weight for the chemicals themselves, in a market where they must fill 96% of their seats to be profitable.
Also, everybody in on the scheme would have to keep the secret.
I have never discounted the possibility or likelihood that the plane was brought down by a missle such as a MANPAD, but...I never, ever been able to bring myself to believe the assertion that it was shot down by a US Navy Ticonderoga class Aegis missile cruiser.
I just cannot see how a crew of 350 could be oblivious to what their missile had done, and could be made to be silent about it.
If I believe they can force the entire crew to be silent about it for decades...well, that kind of has to make one believe we are no different than the Soviet Union.
I just cannot go there.
I’m not suggesting that there are no such things as contrails.. but I’m also suggesting that there may very well be such things as chemtrails.
You can have one with the other.
Most of contrail conspiracy theorists that we encounter are youtubers. And most of them are really, really really stupid. Proof ? Have you seen these guys talking about the Mandela Effect ? Yeah. Bonkers people.
I’m not bonkers.
Ditto. We talked about it at the time. hub said no way could a shoe crew of Navy keep it under their hats. Assuming they all knew. So that’s just put. He’s right
It struck me that the Center fuel tank, pictured, was imploded inward. I spent a couple of years when I was a kid blowing things up, I noticed that explosions in confined spaces always blow out.
Years ago on FR a poster put up a picture of the FAA reassembled Air liner.
It struck me that the Center fuel tank, pictured, was imploded inward. I spent a couple of years when I was a kid blowing things up, I noticed that explosions in confined spaces always blow out.
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First of all, the initial explosive force went through a hole or holes in front of the tank. Any other damage came from subsequent breakup and impact with the water.
Second of all, people have posted a similar picture recently. We don’t know the authenticity, or exactly what’s pictured. The center wing tank is a large structure, and there are many possible different views.
Why the 9K33 Osa? Simple: the Soviets sold many 9K33 systems to client states in the Middle Eastin the late 1970's, and by the early 1990's some may have fallen into terrorist hands.
Yet another conspiracy minded article composed of feelings, guilt by association, hearsay and unnamed sources.
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