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America's fears of splendid isolation under Brexit
The Australian Financial Review ^ | June 13, 2016 | Edward Luce

Posted on 06/12/2016 5:55:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Why is America so alarmed by Brexit? Lest the reader be in doubt, remind yourself of this. Never before has a sitting US president visited a fellow democracy in a bid to sway an election. Nor, until now, have 13 former US secretaries of state and defence risked addressing a letter to a foreign electorate with the same motive. Ditto eight former Treasury secretaries and five former supreme commanders of NATO. Not only has the US establishment broken its non-interference rule over Brexit, it is stamping on its smithereens. If we did not know better, it might seem the UK was uniquely important to the future of the world.

Seductive though that thought may be – particularly for a Brit living in Washington – there is a domestic subtext that can be summarised in two words: Donald Trump. If the British are foolish enough to leave Europe, perhaps Americans are crazy enough to elect Mr Trump. Of course, no one would claim a causal link between what happens in Britain on June 23 and the US presidential election in November. Most American voters have never heard of Brexit. Nor would most feel strongly either way if they had.

Yet there are sufficient echoes to trouble America's besieged elites. In much the same way US music companies test products in the British market, or TV production companies simply borrow what works, the Brexit referendum has become a trial balloon for the health of Western democracy....

(Excerpt) Read more at afr.com ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: australia; borisjohnson; brexit; brixit; churchill; england; europeanunion; germany; kenyan; kenyanbornmuzzie; london; nato; nigelfarage; obama; sirwinstonchurcill; trump; ukip; unitedkingdom; winstonchurchill
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1 posted on 06/12/2016 5:55:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Get while the getting’s good! Once they’ve got their own army the door’ll close.


2 posted on 06/12/2016 6:00:07 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Brexit may be a bellwether for Trump. Pray for your fellow anglos.


3 posted on 06/12/2016 6:03:01 PM PDT by 867V309 (It's over. It's over now.)
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To: Rurudyne

Yup.


4 posted on 06/12/2016 6:04:07 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Operation Wetback II, now with computers)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Brexit is not the cause of Trump, and Trump is not the cause of the Brexit. But both, and a lot more, are riding a wave of antagonism from the general populations about their leaders. The EU has not just the UK to worry about, many countries are ready to leave. Scotland just tried to leave the UK. The Philippines just elected an anti establishment president. While the previous generation’s general trend was integration, this current generation’s trend will be towards breakup and decentralization.


5 posted on 06/12/2016 6:07:38 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Rurudyne

“Once they’ve got their own army the door’ll close.’

So who is going to pay for this army. Spain has no money — same for France, Italy and everyone else. Only Germany and Britain will pay and Britain will then be asked to “just donate” your fine Navy to the cause. Vote LEAVE - just do it.


6 posted on 06/12/2016 6:10:37 PM PDT by bunster
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“I wanna be like Georgia O’Keefe”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3MNG11oynA


7 posted on 06/12/2016 6:12:31 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Gear Up)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Incorrect premise...America is not afraid of Brexit....the D.C. political class is afraid of Brexit because it weakens the globalist agenda


8 posted on 06/12/2016 6:27:31 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: bunster

The EU has been trying for years to implement a transaction tax on the London financial and stock markets which the Brits have so far successfully resisted.


9 posted on 06/12/2016 6:27:51 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The Mofia is a private crime family; whereas, the DOJ is the gov't's political crime family.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here's one American who's pulling for Brexit. And I'm hardly alone, so. Australians may not be able to make a distinction between a government and a nation, but I can and will. I hardly believe "Australia" is as bat-merde crazy as their last far-Left prime minister demonstrated herself to be.

So there...

10 posted on 06/12/2016 6:34:20 PM PDT by Prospero (Omnis caro fenum)
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Here is an excellent movie (1 hr 11 mins -- well worth it) that explains many of the pros and cons of Brexit:

BREXIT THE MOVIE

11 posted on 06/12/2016 6:37:50 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We can't fix a rigged system by relying on the people who rigged it." --Donald Trump, 6/7/16)
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To: Nifster

Yes.


12 posted on 06/12/2016 6:39:07 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: 867V309
From a poetic standpoint, however, they offer a clean solution to the alienations of the postmodern society. Winston Churchill joked that Britain and America were divided by a common language. Today blue-collar whites on both sides of the Atlantic are speaking in the same idiom. They both yearn for the certainties of a lost age.

LOL - Edward Luce doesn't get it - we yearn NOT to live in a hellhole... this has nothing to do with the past - it has to do with the future.

13 posted on 06/12/2016 6:39:34 PM PDT by GOPJ ("9-in-10 GOP outsiders say 4-in-10 GOP insiderds should STFU". - Freeper RoosterRedux)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The European Union was established with the cart before the horse. First should come the political framework. The Union impacts on sovereignty of each one joining, yet the governance is an issue which should have been addressed before the trade agreements.

I think the Brits and other countries would be wise to exit as fast as possible. I will cheer if they do - let the Bilderberg”s taste the error of their ways - this was their brainchild. Just more elites proving they are not the smartest people on Earth.


14 posted on 06/12/2016 7:47:10 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: Nifster

Exactly. Patriots who value sovereignty, independence and personal freedom support efforts to separate Britain from the EU.

The EU is a statist cancer. (Not the individual countries necessarily, but the confederacy itself.)


15 posted on 06/12/2016 7:51:10 PM PDT by rlmorel (Embrace your Curmudgeonliness.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
WE are not alarmed. Our government is alarmed.
16 posted on 06/12/2016 8:29:32 PM PDT by null and void (Hillary Milhouse Clinton: I'm not a c-c-c-crook! Crook! Yeah, that's the c-word I was looking for!)
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To: Albion Wilde; All
Albion, you should have replied "All"

The video is a fantastic economics lesson in capitalism and trade.

17 posted on 06/12/2016 8:49:15 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Albion Wilde

I didn’t see any cons.

But likely the somewhere out there after the british withdrawal there will be no confidence in the Euro.


18 posted on 06/12/2016 10:18:31 PM PDT by ckilmer (q e)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Help me out here. Short explanation of Brexit


19 posted on 06/12/2016 10:23:05 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the notion that Brexit is any problem for US interests is lunacy, thus the involvement of any US officials in trying to influence the UK vote is despicable in the extreme

it is simply none of our business, but if the UK does choose to separate from the EU that should not be even a tiny hiccup in US political and economic relations with both the UK and EU

this is simply the US globalist elite sucking up to their EU counterparts -— sooooo un-American!!!


20 posted on 06/12/2016 10:23:26 PM PDT by Enchante (No lipstick on the PIAPS!! #NeverSHRILLARY)
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