Posted on 06/09/2016 2:36:31 PM PDT by ganeemead
There is evidence of large-scale fraud involved in last Thursday's democrat primary in California.
The present voting system in America involves a voter walking into a room, pulling a lever on a machine, and thereafter having nothing resembling control over how the record of his vote is maintained nor any sort of confidence that his vote is being counted as he might wish. That is clearly untenable, hugely subject to abuse and fraud, and it is remarkable that the American people have ever tolerated it.
If we do not have some sort of a rational and decent voting system in place by November, we could easily be looking at a civil war. I can think of four ideas which might work:
That last item might be the best choice possible with present technology.
Blockchain tech for voting explained on Youtube
Voting machines were first introduced because of the widespread fraud in elections using paper ballots. Did you ever hear the phrase "stuffing the ballot box"?
I believe bitcoin has been hacked at least once as well.
Hackers can and have hacked everything. They are that good. I appreciate the whole brave new world :we got to cyber everything craze, but please wait till I’m gone before casting my suffrage into the ‘cloud’. It really only works in a one party state like Oregon. Democrats always win so who cares about fraud!
It doesn’t matter who votes, what matters is who programs the voting system. Or something like that.
“Let me ax you... How much money is they gonna put on my Bitcoin votin’ card? Can I buy beer and cigarettes wif it, or just food?”
Paper ballots can be fakes just as easily as anything else.
Databases can be hacked.
Our own computers can be hacked (in fact most are).
Bitcoin style could work, but it’ll have to tie to something which can be hacked.
The fact of the matter is any system that allows people to vote allows people to fake vote. It’s just how life works, the biggest security hole in any system is legitimate access, once you allow that anything can happen.
In Nevada when you vote electronically, a paper record is made when you finalize your vote. Problem after that is as far as I know ther is no audit system. So after the vote I propose picking a few precints randomly, and any late precincts automatically for an audit. Any precincts whose paper and electronic totals don’t match automaically loses the votes for that candidate (D)
The bitcoin protocol has had everything thrown at it, including the kitchen sink, and it has never been “hacked”. Insecure bitcoin exchanges have been hacked.
Using blockchain technology for voting will, for all intents and purposes, be unhackable, as long as the code is open sourced.
It will certainly be better than what we have now.
Plus, the blockchain ledger is inspectable by all, so everyone can see what is going on.
If this technology can protect money, it can protect voting.
Blockchain is going to change a lot of things. If the government were forced to use it for their accounting corruption as we know it would end.
You would be incorrect.
Data on servers at Bitcoin exchanges have been hacked. There is no reason to hack the block chain because it is all public.
The block chain is public, there is no need to hack it, and because it’s public you would have to adjust every node in the world to cast a fraudulent vote. There are so many nodes that is not practical.
That’s why you hack it, to get more nodes than you should have. At some point there needs to be a centralized control that says “this person exists as an American citizen allowed to vote and has voted”. Without that I can vote on all my computers at work, with a little bit of fun with reimaging to make sure there’s no cookies or records left behind I can vote on all my computers at work MANY MANY times. And WITH that central control you have a hackable database to hand out extra keys where ever the hackers wants them.
If it cannot be hacked, the Rats won’t allow its use.
I think what they are talking about is to assign you an ID and it records the fact that you voted. Once that address is used, no other person could use it.
You could sign on to however many computers you want, but your id is unique.
But where are they assigning you the ID from? That data has to be somewhere, and it will be able to be modified legitimately, which means you someone will find a way to modify illegitimately.
That’s been done and it doesn’t work. Billions in false tax returns filed by fraudsters before people turned in the real returns.
You can generate an infinite number of unique IDs. That’s how the whole block chain works.
In Bitcoin your proof of identity is your private key. Nobody can assign a private key to you. Your computer or phone or hardware wallet has to generate it and keep it secret. The private key has a corresponding public key which is hashed into an address which you advertise to everyone. If someone else tries to claim your address they cannot because they don't have the corresponding private key to sign a challenge verified by that address.
I haven't watched the youtube and probably won't but here's how I would run a voting system. I would transfer a token amount of bitcoin to your public address. In order to vote you would transact that token amount of bitcoin back to my address along with your vote. The vote would have to be a small encrypted chunk of data stored in the blockchain (there's a size limit on that, not sure what it is). Then I would tally your vote by decrypting it.
Nobody else would be able to steal your vote. Nobody would know how you voted, although the encryption of the vote is a weakness IMO because it would depend on a secure tallying system. Everybody would know whether you voted or not because that would be recorded on the blockchain in perpetuity. There are probably other problems with what I described but I think it answers your question.
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