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Struggling Dowling College announces it is closing down
AP ^ | May 31, 2016 | Staff

Posted on 06/01/2016 10:32:02 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: mountn man
Probably only the hottest girls make enough to pay off their college loans...

Some of them are doing that right now:

http://citifmonline.com/2016/06/01/meet-the-law-graduate-who-used-sugar-daddies-to-finance-her-50000-a-year-education/

21 posted on 06/01/2016 11:12:37 AM PDT by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: C19fan
I've a nodding acquaintance with this, as I worked in the belly of the beast as a contractor...

It will take time. These things move on a four-year cycle, minimum. But IMO, in a generation or so, the survivors will be top ranked private schools (think Yale, Stanford, Duke) and heavily subsidized flagship public schools (think UMass, UNC, Nebraska, etc). The Community College system will still be doing pretty well - perhaps the best of all because they fill a need and are nimble enough to adapt.

Some smaller, "safety schools" - think second ranked public schools, or some no-name privates - may do well if they specialize. "Go to XXXXX, they've one of the top Botany programs in the world".

The others? Wellllll.....

Degree Mills - hint, you can see ads for them on TV - will go under.

Smaller schools that are smart enough to adapt and specialize might survive. These will be fewer in number than you think. One (of the many) things that shocked me during my (thankfully brief) foray into academia was how little faculty and staff understood the concept of money. "Budget" was something the finance weenies complained about, occasionally, then eventually the problem went away. The concept of "Zero Dollars" is utterly foreign. So - when the money runs out, many of these places will crash like a bug into a windshield.

For the larger schools - you can't conceive of the sheer volume of useless fat that can be burned through to find dough to stay operational. Sure, students will protest, staff and faculty will rant and rave .... but when things go into survival mode, that 3rd Assistant Dean of Student Diversity, along with her attendant staff, will get laid off. And there's an unimaginable amount of that kind of deadwood in these places.

Just my unsolicited $0.02.

22 posted on 06/01/2016 11:14:25 AM PDT by wbill
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To: C19fan
Attempts to fix the college's financial problems by nearly doubling tuition didn't help.

Hmm...ya reckon?

Dowling College costs

Tuition's just north of $29K a year. Total cost - this is Long Island - right at $45K. $180K for a four-year degree. Cha-ching!

23 posted on 06/01/2016 11:14:36 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Dilbert San Diego
where college girls were finding “sugar daddies” to pay off their school loans, in exchange for God only knows

There is a website to facilitate those transactions. They put up a controversial billboard at a very busy intersection here.


24 posted on 06/01/2016 11:24:24 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Snickering Hound

The public is finally catching on. I work in a community college in a faculty/staff support position and for years have pleaded with anyone who would listen to support the technical side of the college, that it was a far better bang for the buck for our students.

The faculty and administration will throw their arrogant noses and in the air and snort “we are not here to provide workers, we are here to educate and broaden their minds” One technical program after another has been closed, many with full classes yet their enrollment numbers keep dropping. Students are telling them in their surveys before and after, I need a two year or less program where I can graduate without great debt and be employable in my field.

The current governor of our state cut all college and university budgets nearly 5% and is openly telling higher education, you need to produce graduates who can enter the workforce and make a living. And still the faculty/administration thinks their job is to be a feeder school for four year colleges and set about to close down even more technical programs. Arrogant educated fools who would rather cut off their nose despite their faces...


25 posted on 06/01/2016 11:25:01 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Wasn’t Client 9’s working girl a college student?


26 posted on 06/01/2016 11:35:28 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Kind of like that Windy Davis gal that ran for governor in Texas.


27 posted on 06/01/2016 11:40:28 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I grew up on Long Island, NY and remember that Dowling was a fairly popular private college. Had a few HS classmates attend there for college. I remember the school counselors advising if we were undecided about a college major to go the 2 year Liberal Arts route. How come there wasn’t any ‘Conservative Arts’? (’


28 posted on 06/01/2016 11:42:02 AM PDT by tflabo (truth or tyrrany)
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To: Billthedrill
I remember an article about Yale's apprehension about breaking the $25K barrier at the time. Early '90s, maybe?

Unfortunately, the herd mentality took hold both among the graduating HS seniors at the time, and the other schools. The former were happy to pay the extortion, and the latter were happy to find out the upper end of what the market would bear.

29 posted on 06/01/2016 11:48:58 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Nowadays, these colleges and universities just want the $$$. They don’t give a damn for the students’ problems after they graduate with a worthless degree in ‘Gender Equality Studies’. I have a high suspicion that the counselors actually push these students into areas that are ‘easy’ to make good grades and little effort is required, just so they stay motivated to take out more loans to give the school.............................kinda like a SCAM..........................


30 posted on 06/01/2016 11:55:58 AM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!..........................)
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To: C19fan

Let’s rename it Bowling College. People would learn more.


31 posted on 06/01/2016 12:03:00 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Nationalism is power hunger tempered by self-deception. - George Orwell)
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To: PLMerite

REAL history, constitutional scholarship, remedial math to counter common-core, psychology of liberalism as a mental disease, how to tell your gender (that’s a gimmie- they just look in your pants, and if you can answer correctly in less than 3 tries you get an A), with heavy emphasis on ethics and logic.

Religion is a required elective with courses on muslim invasions through history and religious freedom


32 posted on 06/01/2016 1:04:52 PM PDT by Mr. K (Trump will win NY state - choke on that HilLIARy)
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To: Vigilanteman; Dilbert San Diego

I am 100% grateful for being REQUIRED to take liberal arts courses as part of my Physics and Computer Science degrees.

You have no idea how much more of everyday life you understand when you study a little bit of everything.


33 posted on 06/01/2016 1:08:03 PM PDT by Mr. K (Trump will win NY state - choke on that HilLIARy)
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To: Calvin Locke

I work for a University. Coming back from lunch I heard from a staffer friend that they’re hiring six - SIX - new assistant Provosts. That’s the problem here. It’s government. It’s government in another form, but it’s government, and it’s eating us alive.


34 posted on 06/01/2016 1:22:45 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
Let’s rename it Bowling College. People would learn more.



THE SCHOOL THAT PRODUCED MORE "BOWLING FOR DOLLARS" CHAMPIONS THAN ANY OTHER!!


35 posted on 06/01/2016 1:45:14 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
Let’s rename it Bowling College. People would learn more.

Take the skinheads there.

36 posted on 06/01/2016 1:46:12 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: wbill

I think you’re right. My son attends a very small specialized tech university. They offer cyber security, electrical engineering and aerospace engineering. That’s about it.

With only a few hundred students, some of his aerospace classes have a 5:1 ratio. His education is excellent and the cost is reasonable.

No sports teams except for an intramural frisbee team. The dorms are actually apartments where students prepare their own meals.

They are highly regarded by people in their industries and unheard of by others. And they have a post graduation employment guarantee.


37 posted on 06/01/2016 3:50:08 PM PDT by cyclotic (Guns don't kill people. Abortion clinics kill people)
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To: Mr. K

You’d probably have to forego any Federal money... :)


38 posted on 06/01/2016 4:13:03 PM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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