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It is a very good and accurate portrayal of the realities in America today...
1 posted on 05/25/2016 11:00:17 PM PDT by vannrox
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I think a guy who was a regular Democrat voter in the 1970s...probably is standing there today and just shaking his head because it is a party mostly tied to twenty agenda items which half of them simply aren’t what the typical Democrat would support.

Take up gun talk. If you talk to a dozen Democrats over the age of 50...at least ten probably own a gun and don’t really want any changes done to the current rules of their state.

Go talk about taxation, and most will whine that they’ve worked hard to get to where they are at age fifty, and don’t understand where the tax money is being spent.

Go bring up college costs with a 50-year old Democrat who has a kid or two lined up for college....they will talk mostly like a Republican.

I won’t say it’s a singular problem because half of the Republicans over the age of fifty are fed up with their party as well. Same issues.


2 posted on 05/26/2016 12:01:56 AM PDT by pepsionice
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Bernie Sanders, with a ragtag group of misfits, proved to the world that another way exists. He has created a blueprint for us on how we build a political movement without the money from billionaire class and their special interests. In my heart, I believe we are on the brink of something very special. It isn’t going to be the presidency of Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump either. It’s going to be what those of us who’ve seen a better way do next.

Interesting to read about this guy's spiritual awakening. Quit his job and moved to the country. It sometimes happens to people where it turns out everything you think you knew is wrong. It's a sign of mental health to recognize the need for personal change and to do something about it.

Don’t believe what anyone tells you — the ball is in our hand and we have more power than progressive people have had in a very long time in this country. I will fight for Bernie Sanders until he is no longer running for president.

But I think he's making the same mistake all over again if he thinks "progressive" ideology is going to save the day. Progressive equals Marxism. Its a sad fact that as virulent marxism was dying off in the old Soviet Union, it found a new home in the United States. Hard to believe after Venezuela that anybody thinks leftwing-ism is still a good idea.

It isn’t going to be the presidency of Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump either. It’s going to be what those of us who’ve seen a better way do next.

I hate to break it to him but it is going to the presidency of Donald Trump because we've already found a better way. Take a serious look at what socialism has done for Venezuela and ask yourself if that's what you want here because that's EXACTLY what you'll get.

Trump's going to be the next president. Get used to it.

5 posted on 05/26/2016 1:45:47 AM PDT by Grim (Michael Moore is a big fat pig.)
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I think a large number of Bernie Sanders supporters understand this and won’t be going off silently into that quiet voting booth to commit ethical self-sacrifice despite the terrifying prospects of a Trump presidency.

Judging by the rest of the article, I fail to understand what the author finds terrifying about the prospect of a Trump presidency. Trump is the first candidate in a long time who speaks for the people, and is not a political power-broker. What I take from this is that the author is heavily swayed and influenced by the MSM. The MSM does not use facts or logic, it creates a narrative around feelings. They want to condition people to feel bad feelings whenever they hear the name of a conservative (any conservative), and to feel warm and fuzzy feelings whenever they hear the name of a radical left progressive (the more extremist and stupid, the better, like Wasserman-Schulz). If you fall for emotional manipulation and fail to think critically, you are the perfect Democrat voter.

My sweet mother...taught me that Democrats were for the poor and working class of America. We waffled between those two groups ourselves, so for me, I chose to be a part of the party that represented us.

Hint: the Democrat party has NEVER represented the poor or working class people of America. They have always been about empowering themselves at the expense of everyone else. Their tactic has always been to lie to and manipulate their target voters--they say they care, they try to make you terrified of anyone but them winning the election.

As a senior in high school, I attended my first political rally in 1996 as President Bill Clinton spoke at the University of Kentucky in his reelection bid. He was amazing.

How ironic. For me, Bill Clinton was the turning point, the point when I realized that the Democrat party does not represent the people and that I could never again vote Democrat. When Bill Clinton the corrupt megalomaniac was the Democrat party's offering, I went and registered with a political party for the first time ever.

The thing is, though, the Democratic Party isn’t really very democratic. It’s sincerely just a machine for Hillary Clinton. This isn’t just “sour grapes,” as Clinton surrogates contemptuously claim. This a genuine and painful admission from a critical thinking American citizen that the game is nothing more than a rigged sham.

Seeing the Democrat party for what it is is an important first step. It has always been a vehicle for power for the self-proclaimed elites.

Whatever happens between now and the Democratic Convention – what’s next is that we form a brand new progressive political party from scratch. It has never been more clear to me that millions and millions of us do not belong in the Democratic Party. Their values are not our values. Their priorities are not our priorities.

However, the author clearly remains misguided. The progressives-aka Communists--are even more nakedly after the power than the Democrats. The major difference is that the Democrats hide their lust for power and pretend that they actually care; progressives openly grab the power. The thing to remember is that any politician who promises to "take care of you" is really saying he wants to control every aspect of your life.

The author of this piece has made some progress in recognizing what the Democrat party really is, but he has a long way to go in becoming politically astute.

6 posted on 05/26/2016 3:12:56 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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The US will soon be divided between those who work for a living, and those who don't.

On the one side, the middle class and working class. On the other, the welfare class, the oligarchs who rely on crony capitalism and government support to make their money and keep down outsiders.

Trump has positioned himself on the side of the people who work for a living. Hillary, on the side of the rest.

7 posted on 05/26/2016 3:28:47 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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“plutocratic, neocon war criminal that is Hillary Clinton.”

+1


10 posted on 05/26/2016 4:08:50 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Cruz never could have outfought Trump.But I didn't know until this day that it was Romney all along.)
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Die, you stink’n corrupt, criminal political syndicates. We don’t want the old, stiff political elite donor and greedy pol class anymore or their stink’n money and we don’t want them around anymore. New media means of communication have brought with it knowledge. Thank God for the Internet. The people have finally figured it out on their own and found their voice. As Trump has proven, getting elected today essentially boils down to the effective use of new media sources, being sincere, highly motivated, and effectively communicating a common sense message of governing.


11 posted on 05/26/2016 4:24:52 AM PDT by iontheball
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He’s wrong on one major point. The only part of the GOP that is imploding is a few neocon douchebags in D.C. and NYC. That’s it. Everyone else is aboard the train.

The DNC in the meantime is slow release time bomb going off as we watch.


12 posted on 05/26/2016 4:34:52 AM PDT by Snowybear
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The term NeoCon is thrown around a lot these days. It generally is a blanket derisive term. Originally it was attributed to a group of people that were lead by Irving Kristol and Richard Perle and Dick Cheney. Many of these neocons were FDR new deal Democrats in the 30’s and some were even considered socialists and communists and Democrats. During the 60’s many of these became disaffected with the Democrat party because of LBJ’s massive expansion of the welfare state. The 60’s is the start of the last major realignment in politics. When Nixon courted the disaffected Democrats (the silent majority) and then the Reagan Democrats of the 80’s. We may be experiencing another paradigm realignment shift in politics today.

All the above being said, the thing that separates out these neocons for derision is the decision to go into the Iraq War. I joined shortly after the Vietnam war when I believe the Military was at one of it’s lowest points. In essence, I signed up when it wasn’t “cool” to be a Marine. I had many in my high school class questioning why I wanted to join and be a bullet stopper instead of going to college. Now, the young men and women that join are usually recognized during their graduation, as it should be. Being a lifelong military man, foreign policy has a special place in my heart. If being a neocon today means that you believe in a strong military and pursuing national security that is in America’s interest then I guess I’m a neocon. I don’t want to rehash this conversation, but I believe that the Iraq war was in America’s national interests. While I don’t support a lot of the stupid foreign policy adventures like being in Libya, Somalia or Kosovo in the 90’s, by and large we get it right. Many on here wanted us out of Iraq and look what that’s gotten us. I think everyone can agree that if we left a residual force of 10,000 in Iraq (not fighting mind you, but like we have in South Korea), there would be no ISIS in Iraq today. Again, if that’s being a neocon and not conservative, then maybe I will find myself shifting alignments. While I will pull the lever for Trump over Hillary any day of the week and twice on Sunday, I find myself with a lot of different opinions than Trump has. If Bernie and Trump debate as might now happen, it will be interesting to hear them talk about foreign policy.


14 posted on 05/26/2016 5:35:08 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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My father was a big union guy. Clinton turned him into a Republican. Not so much because of his policies(though he abhors abortion), but because of what a low life scum he is. He detests Obama and Hillary too.


15 posted on 05/26/2016 6:09:23 AM PDT by Bridesheadfan
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Reminds me of what happened when many of us realized the GOPe was NOT our friend... and didn’t carry our ethics or dreams.


17 posted on 05/26/2016 6:35:04 AM PDT by GOPJ (Clinton was impeached for LYING UNDER OATH in a SEXUAL HARASSMENT case NOT for an affair.)
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Just another communist writer.


18 posted on 05/26/2016 6:47:15 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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