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Illegal Immigration and the Fulfillment of Book of Mormon Prophecy (Why Mormons Oppose Trump)
ldsliberty.org ^ | Apr 30, 2010 | Greg West

Posted on 05/15/2016 12:00:19 AM PDT by Trumpinator

The recent signing of a controversial immigration law in Arizona has generated a lot of media attention. While passions run high and the two sides trade epithets, protests are being organized that have the potential to turn violent and further polarize the nation.

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Latter-day saints regard the lands of North, South, and Central America as this choice land. It has been foreordained by God to be a land of freedom. In 2 Nephi chapter 1, we read the words of Nephi, where he rejoiced that God had given his posterity this land by covenant.

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The growth of the Church in Mexico, Central, and South America has been miraculous–so much that more members of the Church speak Spanish than English as their primary language. This is the fulfillment of prophecy. Yet there are other prophecies that are yet to be fulfilled. <

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Meanwhile, in my opinion, in light of the Book of Mormon’s statements, anyone who invests their energies to confront and fight against illegal immigration misspends his energies. This is part of the Lord’s plan that will chasten the wicked Gentiles in America and ultimately establish Zion in Jackson County, Missouri. God himself has placed this problem among us to bring to pass his own purposes and fulfill covenants made to ancient and modern prophets. The descendants of Lehi were given the land by covenant. The rest of us are just tenants and squatters. Only those Gentiles who repent and accept the fullness of the restored gospel will find an ultimate solution to the problem of illegal immigration. That solution will be realized only when we are “no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow-citizens with the saints, and of the household of God. (Ephesians 2:19)

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KEYWORDS: border; illegals; immigration; mormons; trump
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The Mormons, for their religious reasons, are for open borders and this North American union that will unite the Brown people who are the lost tribes of Israel with the current White Mormons.

THis is why Mormon Bishop Mitt Romney is so determined to derail the anti open borders and anti illegal Trump movement.

This article dates from 2010.

1 posted on 05/15/2016 12:00:20 AM PDT by Trumpinator
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To: Trumpinator
Meanwhile, in my opinion, in light of the Book of Mormon’s statements, anyone who invests their energies to confront and fight against illegal immigration misspends his energies. This is part of the Lord’s plan...
2 posted on 05/15/2016 12:01:26 AM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said. youtube.com/watch?v=HZA9k7WAuiY)
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To: Trumpinator

Personally, I don’t think its this complex.
Harry Reid is using his influence in the Mormon Church to manipulate the leaders.
There are lots of conservative Mormons but just like other religions, they do tend to follow their leaders.


3 posted on 05/15/2016 12:08:53 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Trumpinator; Lera
Only those Gentiles who repent and accept the fullness of the restored gospel will find an ultimate solution to the problem of illegal immigration.

And that solution is to erase every last national border in the Western hemisphere, apparently. Same goal as the NAU.

So basically, Trump's border wall would delay the establishment of Zion in Jackson County, MO. lol.

4 posted on 05/15/2016 12:12:20 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Trumpinator
Brown people who are the lost tribes of Israel with the current White Mormons...


5 posted on 05/15/2016 12:13:51 AM PDT by Dallas59 (Only a fool stumbles on things behind him.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Western hemisphere

Just No. America, actually.

6 posted on 05/15/2016 12:19:36 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Dallas59

It comes from the people that attempt to steal the souls of dead Jewish Holocaust victims, wear magic underwear, believe there is a “new” Jerusalem (in Independence, Missouri, natch) and attracted Stabby the Clown.


7 posted on 05/15/2016 12:33:42 AM PDT by Mr. M.J.B.
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To: Zathras

I think it is this.


8 posted on 05/15/2016 12:35:21 AM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said. youtube.com/watch?v=HZA9k7WAuiY)
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To: Trumpinator

I guess they’ve mellowed out from the days when they slaughtered people for simply rolling through their territory.


9 posted on 05/15/2016 12:44:44 AM PDT by Rastus (#NeverHillary)
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To: Zathras

the religion is from the top down and the reason that you have glen beck and mit Romney behaving the way they are is they are being told what to do and say by there church president and there ruling council. if they go against this group they risk not being allowed to be on the council one day.


10 posted on 05/15/2016 1:47:53 AM PDT by PCPOET7
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To: Elsie

Ping


11 posted on 05/15/2016 2:08:12 AM PDT by Mark17 (I traded my shackles for a glorious song. I'm free, praise the Lord, free at last.)
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To: PCPOET7
This is frightening and deserves more publicity. If it's the case, it's certainly been an agenda that is not part of Mormon's campaign rhetoric. It does tie in with Glenn Beck at the border giving teddy bears as a welcome to invader children.

This is totally at odds with having a nation. It's very disturbing that Romney and Reid have acquired so much political clout. It does seem to be a movement, not a religion, in which its elitist rulers acquire massive power and wealth for themselves. These tenets of Mormomism, assuming they're accurate, do tie all the bad stuff together.

12 posted on 05/15/2016 2:40:50 AM PDT by grania
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To: Trumpinator

So this is why Mitt the Mexican has his magic panties in a knot. Explains a lot!


13 posted on 05/15/2016 3:04:55 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: Trumpinator
In 2 Nephi chapter 1, we read the words of Nephi, where he rejoiced that God had given his posterity this land by covenant.
 
 
 
The First Book of Nephi
His Reign and Ministry
 
An account of Lehi and his wife Sariah, and his four sons, being called, (beginning at the eldest) Laman, Lemuel, Sam, and Nephi. The Lord warns Lehi to depart out of the land of Jerusalem, because he prophesieth unto the people concerning their iniquity and they seek to destroy his life. He taketh three days’ journey into the wilderness with his family. Nephi taketh his brethren and returneth to the land of Jerusalem after the record of the Jews. The account of their sufferings. They take the daughters of Ishmael to wife. They take their families and depart into the wilderness. Their sufferings and afflictions in the wilderness. The course of their travels. They come to the large waters. Nephi’s brethren rebel against him. He confoundeth them, and buildeth a ship. They call the name of the place Bountiful. They cross the large waters into the promised land, and so forth. This is according to the account of Nephi; or in other words, I, Nephi, wrote this record.

Chapter 1

Nephi begins the record of his people—Lehi sees in vision a pillar of fire and reads from a book of prophecy—He praises God, foretells the coming of the Messiah, and prophesies the destruction of Jerusalem—He is persecuted by the Jews. About 600 B.C.

 I, Nephi, having been born of goodly parents, therefore I was taught somewhat in all the learning of my father; and having seen many afflictions in the course of my days, nevertheless, having been highly favored of the Lord in all my days; yea, having had a great knowledge of the goodness and the mysteries of God, therefore I make a record of my proceedings in my days.

 Yea, I make a record in the language of my father, which consists of the learning of the Jews and the language of the Egyptians.

 And I know that the record which I make is true; and I make it with mine own hand; and I make it according to my knowledge.

 For it came to pass in the commencement of the first year of the reign of Zedekiah, king of Judah, (my father, Lehi, having dwelt at Jerusalem in all his days); and in that same year there came many prophets, prophesying unto the people that they must repent, or the great city Jerusalem must be destroyed.

 Wherefore it came to pass that my father, Lehi, as he went forth prayed unto the Lord, yea, even with all his heart, in behalf of his people.

 And it came to pass as he prayed unto the Lord, there came a pillar of fire and dwelt upon a rock before him; and he saw and heard much; and because of the things which he saw and heard he did quake and tremble exceedingly.

 And it came to pass that he returned to his own house at Jerusalem; and he cast himself upon his bed, being overcome with the Spirit and the things which he had seen.

 And being thus overcome with the Spirit, he was carried away in a vision, even that he saw the heavens open, and he thought he saw God sitting upon his throne, surrounded with numberless concourses of angels in the attitude of singing and praising their God.

 And it came to pass that he saw One descending out of the midst of heaven, and he beheld that his luster was above that of the sun at noon-day.

 10 And he also saw twelve others following him, and their brightness did exceed that of the stars in the firmament.

 11 And they came down and went forth upon the face of the earth; and the first came and stood before my father, and gave unto him a book, and bade him that he should read.

 12 And it came to pass that as he read, he was filled with the Spirit of the Lord.

 13 And he read, saying: Wo, wo, unto Jerusalem, for I have seen thine abominations! Yea, and many things did my father read concerning Jerusalem—that it should be destroyed, and the inhabitants thereof; many should perish by the sword, and many should be carried away captive into Babylon.

 14 And it came to pass that when my father had read and seen many great and marvelous things, he did exclaim many things unto the Lord; such as: Great and marvelous are thy works, O Lord God Almighty! Thy throne is high in the heavens, and thy power, and goodness, and mercy are over all the inhabitants of the earth; and, because thou art merciful, thou wilt not suffer those who come unto thee that they shall perish!

 15 And after this manner was the language of my father in the praising of his God; for his soul did rejoice, and his whole heart was filled, because of the things which he had seen, yea, which the Lord had shown unto him.

 16 And now I, Nephi, do not make a full account of the things which my father hath written, for he hath written many things which he saw in visions and in dreams; and he also hath written many things which he prophesied and spake unto his children, of which I shall not make a full account.

 17 But I shall make an account of my proceedings in my days. Behold, I make an abridgment of the record of my father, upon plates which I have made with mine own hands; wherefore, after I have abridged the record of my father then will I make an account of mine own life.

 18 Therefore, I would that ye should know, that after the Lord had shown so many marvelous things unto my father, Lehi, yea, concerning the destruction of Jerusalem, behold he went forth among the people, and began to prophesy and to declare unto them concerning the things which he had both seen and heard.

 19 And it came to pass that the Jews did mock him because of the things which he testified of them; for he truly testified of their wickedness and their abominations; and he testified that the things which he saw and heard, and also the things which he read in the book, manifested plainly of the coming of a Messiah, and also the redemption of the world.

 20 And when the Jews heard these things they were angry with him; yea, even as with the prophets of old, whom they had cast out, and stoned, and slain; and they also sought his life, that they might take it away. But behold, I, Nephi, will show unto you that the tender mercies of the Lord are over all those whom he hath chosen, because of their faith, to make them mighty even unto the power of deliverance.

 
They don’t represent an official position of the Church.
DUH!
 
 
I’ve had conservative Christians defend the assassination of our founder, the Prophet Joseph Smith, who was murdered by a mob of some 200 men with their faces painted black.
A wee bit of  spin, doncha think?   The Founder happened to have a PISTOL with which to SHOOT at people.
 
 
However, we also find common ground with those on the left.
Wow!!
 
 
We believe in equality for men and women...
I think your ladies will desagree with this; as there are NONE in positions of power in LDS land.
 
 
..., racial equality...
Your RECORD proves THIS to be bogus.
 
 
 
 ....being good stewards of the earth...
Well; you guys DO build a lot of fancy malls and temples on it.
 
... volunteerism, and humanitarian service.
Wearing your bright yellow shirts so you can be identified easier.

14 posted on 05/15/2016 4:07:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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“This is part of the Lord’s plan that will chasten the wicked Gentiles in America and ultimately establish Zion in Jackson County, Missouri.”

The Garden of Eden is located in Jackson County. You did know that, didn’t you, `Gentile’?

And God Elohim lives on a planet near star Kolob, too.

Merry Smithmas, everyone.


15 posted on 05/15/2016 4:15:39 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Trumpinator; jimrob
Meanwhile, in my opinion,

In the opinion of this website; Greg West's words are hyperventilating arrogance and braggadocio.

http://mormonism-unveiled.blogspot.com/2011/01/free-republic-webmaster-jim-robinson.html

16 posted on 05/15/2016 4:17:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Trumpinator

I guess I don’t really give a damn what the Mormons think.


17 posted on 05/15/2016 4:36:34 AM PDT by FrankR (You're only enslaved to the extent of the charity that you receive!)
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To: Mark17

Do I HAVE to??


18 posted on 05/15/2016 4:43:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I’ve come to collect back rent....
http://www.examiner.com/article/anti-mormon-purge-coming-on-free-republic


19 posted on 05/15/2016 4:48:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Trumpinator
Sounds like so much horsecrap. Among my Mormon friends, those who oppose and support Trump break down basically the same as my Lutheran and Catholic friends from North Dakota and Minnesota, where I grew up.

Those who are opposed don't even mention his immigration stance (which isn't all that different from Romney's stated views in 2012), they mention stylistic things-- he is rude, crude, impolite, etc.

The inner mountain west (home of most Mormons) and the Great Plains States (home of those who share their political views on guns, politeness, the importance of church activity, etc.) are remarkably similar on opposition to Trump.

Cruz would have won Nebraska's primary last week, easily, had there still been a contest. It is STILL not chic or stylish to declare yourself a Trump supporter at this point in that area of the country. They are still coming to grips with the fact that it is going to be Trump vs. Hillary. And neither demographic is going to vote for the anti-gun, anti-religion Hillary.

20 posted on 05/15/2016 4:54:52 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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