[Charles Martel]

Mazda is larger than it seems, due to its partnership with Ford. IIRC, Nissan has a similar relationship with Renault (which goes a long way to explaining the French automaker's improvement).

I believe Isuzu is already out of the light-duty vehicle market, at least in North America.

[Fai Mao]

Yeah, Nissan, Renault, Infiniti, Samsung Motors, Dacia, Datsun, Venucia and Lada are all one company according to Wikipedia.

That is why I listed Mitsubishi, Isuzu and Subaru. Subaru has remained small on purpose and I think it has hurt them. They were trying to be a Japanese Volvo and fill a nitch market. Mitsubishi was hit with a scandal and had Fiat level quality problems in some of their cars and I don’t know what happened to Isuzu.

We could probably add Suzuki into that pot of failing car makers as well.

I wish Mazda still made a pickup. I need a truck, or at least want one and really like the CX-5 my wife bought

[gymbeau]

Mazda and Ford’s partnership ended a few years ago, IIRC.

I think it was Ford’s doing, when they divested themselves of a bunch, like Jaguar, Volvo, etc.

cheers
Jim

[PJammers]

Ford divested in Mazda a few years ago. Isuzu use to build the S series trucks for GM as well as the early Colorado and Canyon. They currently produce diesel commercial vehicles. They’ve been pretty much regulated out of the US.