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What will happen to Ted Cruz's and John Kasich's delegates? (And Rubio's)
C BS ^ | May 5, 2016 | Jennifer Pinto

Posted on 05/11/2016 10:29:20 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Ted Cruz suspended his campaign but earned 562 delegates along the way, according to CBS News estimates, and Kasich also ended his campaign, having won 152 delegates.

Louisiana's five Rubio delegates back Trump, call for Rubio as VP. What happens to those delegates now? Are they free to support Donald Trump?

The state Republican parties set the rules for what's to be done with pledged delegates, and each state has different rules.

For example, many states bind their delegates to their presidential candidates for the first convention ballot unless the candidate "releases" their delegates. Other state parties say delegates are bound to a candidate unless the candidate "withdraws." To confuse the situation further, it's not always clear whether suspending a campaign qualifies as withdrawing.

Texas: Nearly one-fifth of Cruz's delegates -- 101 -- were won in his home state of Texas. State party rules say that if a candidate files a sworn statement with the Texas Republican party to withdraw, then those delegates become uncommitted. However, if a candidate just makes a public withdrawal (without doing so formally with the party), those delegates remain bound to that candidate, at least for the first ballot.

Utah: All 40 of the state's delegates were allocated to Cruz after he won the caucuses in March. According to the state party, if a candidate who has been allocated delegates is not a candidate at the convention than those delegates get reallocated -- but the rules indicate that this occurs at the convention, not before.

Wisconsin: Cruz's win in Wisconsin earned him the bulk of the state's delegates -- 36 of them. Under state party rules, delegates are bound until released by a candidate, or until that candidate receives less than a third of a roll call vote at the convention. It's unclear if just a suspension or formal release is required.

What's going to happen to Marco Rubio's delegates? Nevertheless, even if Cruz and Kasich publicly endorsed Trump, their delegates would not automatically go to the presumptive Republican nominee. While some of their delegates may turn uncommitted, it looks like Trump may need to earn most of his future delegates on his own -- by winning them in the remaining primaries.

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KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2016rncconvention; cruz; delegates; previouslyzotted; trump
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Alaska and Louisiana: In Louisiana, the 18 delegates Cruz won will become unbound after a candidate no longer has an active campaign. In Alaska, party rules state that a candidate's delegates are re-allocated to remaining candidates after a candidate exits the race, and Cruz won 12 here. But when the Alaska Republican party re-apportioned Rubio's delegates after he suspended his campaign, Rubio requested that he be able to keep his delegates and the party appears to have granted that request.

Ohio: The fate of some of John Kasich's delegates may still be debated -- he won his home state of Ohio and all 66 of its delegates. The state rules on the party web site make no reference to how long Ohio GOP delegates are bound. Some sources indicate delegates may be bound to a candidate even if they suspend their campaign.

Marco Rubio won at least one delegate in 19 states, plus Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia, and the fate of at least some of his delegates has been determined. His 7 delegates in Iowa, 14 delegates in Georgia, 8 in Massachusetts, 12 in Oklahoma, 1 in Hawaii, 6 in North Carolina, 16 in Virginia and 9 in Arkansas will remain bound to him at the convention, though the number of ballots they're bound for varies by state.

1 posted on 05/11/2016 10:29:20 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

They go to Delegate Purgatory and we’ll never hear from them again.


2 posted on 05/11/2016 10:30:08 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Cruz delegates should go to Trump, else stay home. They lost and have no need, nor should they be welcomed at the convention. Enough of Lyn’ Ted and his delegate games.


3 posted on 05/11/2016 10:32:53 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Make America Great Again Starts with America First! I stand with Trump.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Do they not by the time of the convention go to the frontrunner?


4 posted on 05/11/2016 10:34:26 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Fido969

Better than feeding them to the Angry Volcano.

In purgatory, at least they have a chance.


5 posted on 05/11/2016 10:34:58 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

LIbbylu is that you?


6 posted on 05/11/2016 10:38:29 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

They will be given to Hellary.


7 posted on 05/11/2016 10:39:09 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

They should be required to provide free Cheetos for the other delegates and apologize for being suckers on the Glenn Beck show. /s


8 posted on 05/11/2016 10:39:16 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Cruz for sure and I think Rubio,,don’t know about Kasich have suspended, not ended their campaigns.

So some of these rules do not apply because they are technically still running.


9 posted on 05/11/2016 10:40:08 AM PDT by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Aren’t they bound to vote for their candidate on the first ballot? As long as their candidates don’t officially withdraw from the race they’re committed to vote for him, right?


10 posted on 05/11/2016 10:41:32 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("In a time of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act". George Orwell.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Trump will go to the convention with more than half the delegates bound to him.

Knowing this the vast majority of delegates who aren’t bound will vote for Trump. It’s possible that some of the candidates will release their candidates before the initial ballot. The bound candidates will vote for their respective candidate. Trump will win on the first ballot.

Then symbolically they will probably ask for a unanimous affirmation. And Trump will get the votes of all, unless there are still some Cruz delegates still suffering from serious butthurt.


11 posted on 05/11/2016 10:41:51 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Fido969

also under the rule 40 they cannot be nominated without a majority vote in 8 states. That wipes out Rubio and kasich. if the delegate is bound under the rules— that delegate may not vote. Since Cruz suspended, my guess is that precluded his nomination and his bound delegates can’t vote. If he unsuspends he can be placed in nomination. This would be very offensive and self centered since he has no chance. I think it would end his political future if any. Surely ,at some point , he will have some honor and dignity in this thing. Yesterday he was telling Nebraska voters that if they vote him in as winner in Nebraska , he would “unsuspend” . They listened carefuly and voted for Trump.


12 posted on 05/11/2016 10:46:58 AM PDT by WENDLE (Hillary committed crimes!! Why the delay?)
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To: jalisco555

I saw a post yesterday showing that by rule 14 of the convention rules once a candidate suspends their campaign the delegates become unbound.


13 posted on 05/11/2016 10:47:21 AM PDT by Souled_Out (Our hope is in the power of God working through the hearts of people.)
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To: DannyTN

Then symbolically they will probably ask for a unanimous affirmation. And Trump will get the votes of all

yep


14 posted on 05/11/2016 10:49:25 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

The OH situation is confusing. Just after the primary, what we were reading is that if Kasich dropped out of the campaign, those delegates would go to the second place finisher. That is Trump, a very strong #2. Who knows? For all we know, they might be writing the rules as they go along.


15 posted on 05/11/2016 10:56:44 AM PDT by grania
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To: jalisco555; Adder; Biggirl

Read the rules, it all depends on how the state defines their exit. Some include suspension in the definition, others do not.


16 posted on 05/11/2016 10:59:29 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Who gives a $@*&^#$@&$^&.

Cruz can go back to being a senator and possibly wind up on SCOTUS if he behaves himself.

Kasich can finish up his term as Governor and go on to be a permanent resident in a padded cell somewhere.

Rubio has a future in politics once he gets his nose out McCain’s butt. Maybe in the Trump Administration or even VP and future President.


17 posted on 05/11/2016 11:00:15 AM PDT by ZULU (DON'T GO OFF THE RESERVATION.)
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To: Fido969

All but 3 of the Wisconsin delegates are pledged to Cruz for 3 ballots. They signed that pledge before they were elected at their district Caucuses.


18 posted on 05/11/2016 11:01:26 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Souled_Out

State rules sometimes conflict with the national convention rules.

Read Alaska rules from the above article.

They were reallocated by party rule. Rubio asked for his delegates returned. They returned the delegates to Rubio.

So Alaska’s rules were meaningless.


19 posted on 05/11/2016 11:06:03 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Gucifer will hack them.


20 posted on 05/11/2016 11:09:04 AM PDT by spokeshave (Somewhere there is a ceiling for Trump.....Yeah, it's called The Oval Office)
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