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Ash Carter accuses Russia of 'nuclear saber-rattling'
cns news ^ | 5/3/16

Posted on 05/03/2016 11:19:04 AM PDT by StCloudMoose

Ash Carter is the same person who accuses Russia of trying to destroy our fiber optic cables.

Defense Secretary Ash Carter used a U.S. military changing-of-the-guard ceremony Tuesday to blast Russian aggression in Europe, saying Moscow is "going backward in time" with warlike actions that compel a U.S. military buildup on NATO's eastern flank.

"We do not seek a cold — let alone a hot — war with Russia," Carter said. "We do not seek to make Russia an enemy. But make no mistake, we will defend our allies, the rules-based international order, and the positive future it affords us."

Carter presided at a ceremony installing Army Gen. Curtis "Mike" Scaparrotti as head of U.S. European Command and the top NATO commander in Europe. Scaparrotti most recently commanded U.S. and allied troops in South Korea and has commanded troops in Afghanistan. He succeeds Air Force Gen. Philip Breedlove, who has pointedly and repeatedly warned that NATO must better prepare for an adversarial relationship with Russia.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia
KEYWORDS: ashcarter; nuclear; russia
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1 posted on 05/03/2016 11:19:04 AM PDT by StCloudMoose
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To: StCloudMoose

If we had competent leaders this wouldn’t happen.


2 posted on 05/03/2016 11:22:24 AM PDT by paintriot
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To: StCloudMoose; SkyPilot

Russia has but 9 months or so to do whatever they want to do.

That being said, I don’t trust that Obama wouldn’t get some hot war going somewhere to distract the people from the crashing economy or whatever. OK, I’ll admit; that’s some tinfoil right there.

What I do say, is that I think we’re in the most turbulent and dangerous times in our country’s recent history, between now and next January.

I still think the economic house of cards is at great risk.


3 posted on 05/03/2016 11:23:12 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: StCloudMoose

So, rants the man without nukes.


4 posted on 05/03/2016 11:25:21 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (If you like your part-time job, you can keep your part-time job. Vote Bolshecrat.)
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To: StCloudMoose
> "We do not seek a cold — let alone a hot — war with Russia," Carter said. "We do not seek to make Russia an enemy."

That statement is completely inconsistent with past and current policy on NATO expansion.

If you don't want to make an enemy of Russia, you don't set up a hostile military alliance backed by nuclear guarantees on its border. It's not rocket science.

5 posted on 05/03/2016 11:28:52 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: thoughtomator

Exactly. But doing that is very important for defense contractors. Also creating an external enemy really helps distract the people at home from domestic concerns.


6 posted on 05/03/2016 11:30:57 AM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,)
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To: paintriot

It would be bad only if it was nookyuhlehr saber rattling.


7 posted on 05/03/2016 11:43:40 AM PDT by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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“Ash Carter accuses Russia of ‘nuclear saber-rattling’”

Why the “F” does he care, he is pushing forward with his stupid ideas of trans this and gay that being able to openly serve, so what if we can’t respond to threats...Let me guess, they may actually want to use the military for its primary purpose and NOT the made up social experiment BS they are doing to the military now...sorry Ash, it may be too late, you and your idiot president may have “F’ed” the military up far beyond repair and our ability to respond to threats and our capability is diminished, but you now have gays and transgenders serving, so I guess you got that going for you.


8 posted on 05/03/2016 12:03:56 PM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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another piece of TRash affirmative action hire heard from
9 posted on 05/03/2016 12:12:02 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: StCloudMoose

Right out of Machiavelli’s The Prince,... put an enemy at the gates.....


10 posted on 05/03/2016 12:18:48 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: StCloudMoose

Maybe you shouldn’t have overthrown that Russian friendly government in next store Ukraine.


11 posted on 05/03/2016 12:24:59 PM PDT by McGruff (Denial ain't just a river in Egypt - Mark Twain)
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To: areukiddingme1

he is the Obama agenda messenger. so many leader have been removed by Obama. this one is listening to Obama so far


12 posted on 05/03/2016 12:29:26 PM PDT by StCloudMoose
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Boy, putin is shaking in his boots now. Has a red line been drawn?


13 posted on 05/03/2016 12:30:48 PM PDT by richardtavor
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“That statement is completely inconsistent with past and current policy on NATO expansion.”

NATO was started and expanded to deter Soviet control over Central and Eastern Europe. After the fall of the Soviet Union, Russia was offered full membership in NATO, which it declined. Russia has had ample opportunity to join forces with the Western democracies, but has refused to do so for reasons which have become obvious under Putin’s authoritarian rule.


14 posted on 05/03/2016 12:32:13 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: thoughtomator

meanwhile China hacks our government systems over and over and the white house is silent


15 posted on 05/03/2016 12:38:30 PM PDT by StCloudMoose
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Ash,the Veep on line one; he wants to speak to your daughter!


16 posted on 05/03/2016 12:42:05 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: riverdawg

>NATO was started and expanded to deter Soviet control over Central and Eastern Europe.

And its legitimate mission thus ended with the dissolution of the USSR. Since then NATO has existed for no purpose other than to stir up trouble to justify military budgets.

>Russia was offered full membership in NATO

Did you mean to type something else here? Because I’m pretty sure that Russia was never offered NATO membership.

What actually happened is that, as part of the deal to reunify Germany, Russia had been given assurances that NATO would not be expanded in its direction - assurances that were then repeatedly broken.


17 posted on 05/03/2016 12:42:45 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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>What actually happened is that, as part of the deal to reunify Germany, Russia had been given assurances that NATO would not be expanded in its direction

That is an old leftist myth that has now found its way to some conservative circles. Bush, Baker, Shevardnadze and Gorbachev have all denied it. Here is a recent denial of this promise ever been made from Gorbachev.

http://rbth.com/international/2014/10/16/mikhail_gorbachev_i_am_against_all_walls_40673.html

RBTH: Why didn’t you insist that the promises made to you – particularly U.S. Secretary of State James Baker’s promise that NATO would not expand into the East – be legally encoded? I will quote Baker: “NATO will not move one inch further east.”

M.G.: The topic of “NATO expansion” was not discussed at all, and it wasn’t brought up in those years. I say this with full responsibility. Not a singe Eastern European country raised the issue, not even after the Warsaw Pact ceased to exist in 1991. Western leaders didn’t bring it up, either. Another issue we brought up was discussed: making sure that NATO’s military structures would not advance and that additional armed forces from the alliance would not be deployed on the territory of the then-GDR after German reunification. Baker’s statement, mentioned in your question, was made in that context. Kohl and [German Vice Chancellor Hans-Dietrich] Genscher talked about it.


18 posted on 05/03/2016 2:31:52 PM PDT by Krosan
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I presume this means that you can’t support the assertion that Russia was offered NATO membership, since you ignored the question?


19 posted on 05/03/2016 2:34:08 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: thoughtomator; riverdawg
That question was for riverdawg, but I'll remember the bolded sentence from 2009.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO%E2%80%93Russia_relations

In March 2009, the Polish Foreign Minister, Radosław Sikorski, suggested including Russia in NATO.[72] Speaking to one of the main Polish daily newspapers after the lecture, Mr Sikorski explained, 'I stand by everything I said, but that doesn't mean I'm inviting Russia to join the NATO. I simply presented a certain hypothetical vision, a reference to a debate that took place in the NATO in the mid-1990s. Then, under the Clinton administration, there was a debate on whether, and on what terms, Russia could become a member of the Alliance.'[88] Russian leadership, however, made it clear Russia did not plan to join the alliance, preferring to keep cooperation on a lower level now. In March 2009, the Russian envoy to NATO, Dmitry Rogozin, in response to Radosław Sikorski′s proposal, while not ruling out NATO membership at some point in the future, was quoted as saying: "Great powers don't join coalitions, they create coalitions. Russia considers itself a great power."

20 posted on 05/03/2016 2:59:42 PM PDT by Krosan
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