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Is “The System” Really Rigged?
Townhall.com ^ | April 17, 2016 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 04/17/2016 4:34:27 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin; Cboldt; ClearCase_guy; Yashcheritsiy; okie01; Beautiful_Gracious_Skies; kjam22; ...
Donald Trump cries it every time he loses, every time he realizes he’s been outsmarted, every time it’s clear he’s in over his head and didn’t hire competent people who understand, or even read, clearly stated rules.

Someone should tell Derek Hunter that it's been a week since the GOPe's Unipatsy, Teddie "Fat Dracula" Cruz, buried his arms in the Colorado Tar-Baby up to the elbows.

And now the Wyoming Tar-Baby is stuck to Cruz, too - Drudge mast headline: "CRUZ CELEBRATES ANOTHER VOTERLESS VICTORY! NO ELECTION IN WY..."

Hunter is clueless. Trump is playing these stupid nitwits like fiddles. :)

61 posted on 04/17/2016 7:15:47 AM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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Oh, and for all you cruz people high-fiving & yukking it up about "clueless" Trump's "crappy ground game":

Colorado, 2012:

                votes           delegates
Rick Santorum  26,614	40.3%       6
Mitt Romney    23,012	34.9       13
Newt Gingrich   8,445	12.8   	
Ron Paul        7,759	11.8        5

Wyoming, 2012:

                votes           delegates
Mitt Romney       577	44.0%	   23
Rick Santorum     360	27.5        2
Uncommitted       203	15.5        —
Ron Paul          160	12.2   	    1

See? In 2012, the social squish had the lock with the GOPee Establishment, just like the squish has the lock in 2016...

62 posted on 04/17/2016 7:20:26 AM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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To: Cboldt

“How does (or did) the press manage to keep control over the message? By controlling who was allowed to be the messenger.”

The story behind all the stories is the press. Their influence may be the biggest “rigging” of the system we have.

The old Soviet Union pretty much had a one party press. (There were western broadcasts and perhaps other subversive sources). The United States pretty much has a one party press also. Ours may be more powerful as they falsely claim objectivity.


63 posted on 04/17/2016 7:21:04 AM PDT by ChessExpert (It is not compassion when you use government to give other people's money away.)
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To: kiryandil

Trump...squish?


64 posted on 04/17/2016 7:22:03 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777
If Trump won Colorado & Wyoming - yes, he would be the Republican Establishment's designated squish & patsy [the Unipatsy, to be precise...]. :)

My apologies to the innumerate, like you, servantboy. :)

65 posted on 04/17/2016 7:25:17 AM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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To: kiryandil
lol
66 posted on 04/17/2016 7:26:53 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: ChessExpert
-- The story behind all the stories is the press. Their influence may be the biggest "rigging" of the system we have. --

There are multiple interlocking pieces. See too education and religion, in addition to the information industry and the political/legislative/court industry.

The people are decadent, in part because that is human nature, and in part because, thanks to the "popular press and education," being decadent is the cool thing to be.

-- The United States pretty much has a one party press also. Ours may be more powerful as they falsely claim objectivity. --

Even more amazing than the claim, is the pervasive meme that the press is supposed to be objective, that it has some sort of truth and honor code or something along those lines, that it travels a "high road." Hah.

I'm sure some individual practitioners honestly strive for objectivity, but those people are way outside of broad public exposure.

67 posted on 04/17/2016 7:30:20 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Kaslin

It’s early. But is this Townhall article saying that Hillary Clinton’s life is the American Dream? Using and chucking people aside in the worst ways, stealing and grifting and bribing and trading national secrets and murder? Who wrote this, Frank Underwood?


68 posted on 04/17/2016 7:30:23 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: servantboy777

I understand that the Cruzbonics language doesn’t have the convenience of “numbers” that the rest of us enjoy... LOL! :)


69 posted on 04/17/2016 7:31:54 AM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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"How delegates are won or lost may be, but everyone knows the rules. "

So, the rules include only seating those that will vote for Cruz??

This is just clown hall trying to justify the eGOP cheating. There are no rules that include only seating people voting for Cruz.


70 posted on 04/17/2016 7:33:07 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: kiryandil

Rick Santorum 26,614 40.3% 6
Mitt Romney 23,012 34.9 13
Newt Gingrich 8,445 12.8
Ron Paul 7,759 11.8 5

Wyoming, 2012:

votes delegates
Mitt Romney 577 44.0% 23
Rick Santorum 360 27.5 2
Uncommitted 203 15.5 —
Ron Paul 160 12.2 1

See? In 2012, the social squish had the lock with the GOPee Establishment, just like the squish has the lock in 2016..

_______________________

And yet, no one can recall anyone whining and crying about both Wyo. and CO in 2012.

In fact, I don’t recall anyone whining as much as Donald. And to think we make fun of the snowflakes on college campi when our own frontrunner is one himself :0


71 posted on 04/17/2016 7:33:48 AM PDT by LMAO (" I probably identify more as Democrat," Donald Trump 2004)
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To: Yaelle
See my posts #61 & #62 for the Derek Hunter megynkellyslap. :)
72 posted on 04/17/2016 7:35:18 AM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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And yet, no one can recall anyone whining and crying about both Wyo. and CO in 2012.

Looks like a combination of clueless and stoneless to me, then.

The numbers from 2012 tell me that we were FORCE-FED the social squish loserboy, LMAO.

What do they tell you?

73 posted on 04/17/2016 7:37:18 AM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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To: CodeToad
See my posts #61 & #62 for the Derek Hunter megynkellyslap. :)
74 posted on 04/17/2016 7:38:06 AM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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Looks like a combination of clueless and stoneless to me, then.

The numbers from 2012 tell me that we were FORCE-FED the social squish loserboy, LMAO.

What do they tell you?


Fair or unfair, the rules were available to said whiney snowflake. It’s whiney snowflakes job to learn them. Just like it’s my job to read all contracts I sign. Something that should be learned in adulthood. He also cried when he lost both Utah and Wi

No wonder he’s losing to Hillary


75 posted on 04/17/2016 7:42:40 AM PDT by LMAO (" I probably identify more as Democrat," Donald Trump 2004)
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No wonder he’s losing to Hillary

Ah, jeez, not this "Trump loses to Hillary" garbage again.

He'll chop her up like he's doing to Cruzless with the Colorado & Wyoming thingees.

Why do you think the Wisconsin Democrats crossed over to give Teddiestablishment the win in Wisconsin?

If Trump was such easy meat, he would have "won" Wisconsin - where the Democrats own the vote.

Instead, Teddie got a shot of genunine spurious Spanish viagra. :)

76 posted on 04/17/2016 7:50:08 AM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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Fair or unfair, the rules were available to said whiney snowflake. It’s whiney snowflakes job to learn them. Just like it’s my job to read all contracts I sign. Something that should be learned in adulthood. He also cried when he lost both Utah and Wi

Looks to me like Trump read the rules, then decided to hoist Cruzless on his own retard by playing the "CRUZ CELEBRATES ANOTHER VOTERLESS VICTORY!" card.

It's working - cruzie's got his little FR anklebiters out trying to sell the "Donald is dumb" narrative.

No sale.

77 posted on 04/17/2016 7:52:57 AM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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The underlying problem is, of course, that it’s not “rigged” in his favor.

And that is what’s really upsetting the Trumpers.

You are making a huge assumption here, which is that Trump supporters are perfectly okay with underhanded win-at-any-cost tactics as long as it is their guy who benefits.

The truth is that many (most? all?) Trump supporters actually value things like integrity and fairness (of opportunity, not outcome). So when we see someone apparently cheating, we turn against that person. It doesn't matter if he is on our team--we don't want a cheater.

I didn't turn against Cruz because I'm for Trump. I turned against Cruz because of Cruz. That means I will not turn back to Cruz if Trump should somehow not pick up the nomination--in that case, I'll probably vote for the libertarian or one of the other conservative parties' candidates.

And before you say that Cruz won by the rules in CO, just consider that it is like saying that a murderer's exoneration was completely legal because he confessed to the police before they read the Miranda rights to him. Maybe it's perfectly legal, but it's totally wrong.

78 posted on 04/17/2016 8:01:50 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: kiryandil

Ah, jeez, not this “Trump loses to Hillary” garbage again.

He’ll chop her up like he’s doing to Cruzless with the Colorado & Wyoming thingees.

Why do you think the Wisconsin Democrats crossed over to give Teddiestablishment the win in Wisconsin?

If Trump was such easy meat, he would have “won” Wisconsin - where the Democrats own the vote.

Instead, Teddie got a shot of genunine spurious Spanish viagra. :)


Sigh...

Another one that doesn’t understand the difference between a primary election and the general. Public education civics has declined alot since I attended school, I guess.

The same behaviour exhibited by Trump that’s cheered as great strategy by his supporters in the primary elections has less tolerance in the general. Reflected in every poll as it pertains to the general. Yes I know the standard Trumper line. The media polls are false. Not when they say the same thing. Every one. And no, it’s not a conspiracy. And no, this isn’t 1980;)

The things that the Trumpers tell themselves inside the echo chamber would be cute and funny if the stakes weren’t so high... a Hillary presidency:(


79 posted on 04/17/2016 8:04:33 AM PDT by LMAO (" I probably identify more as Democrat," Donald Trump 2004)
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To: exDemMom

just consider that it is like saying that a murderer’s exoneration was completely legal because he confessed to the police before they read the Miranda rights to him. Maybe it’s perfectly legal, but it’s totally wrong.


Bad analogy

More like if I sign a contract, and some part of the contract is enforced that may be unfair, it was my responsibility to read the contract before signing it.

Since Trump signed onto running for president, it’s his job to learn the rules. Not demand that party bosses lead him by the hand. Right or wrong, that’s the game.

My personal opinion is both Trump and Cruz are too badly damaged to win in Nov. Neither one is really going to unite the base to it’s totality as Reagan did. Too much bad blood between supporters.


80 posted on 04/17/2016 8:10:37 AM PDT by LMAO (" I probably identify more as Democrat," Donald Trump 2004)
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