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Is “The System” Really Rigged?
Townhall.com ^ | April 17, 2016 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 04/17/2016 4:34:27 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 04/17/2016 4:34:27 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Is the press honest?

How does (or did) the press manage to keep control over the message? By controlling who was allowed to be the messenger. Anybody can apply for the job.

2 posted on 04/17/2016 4:36:31 AM PDT by Cboldt
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I don't know. You tell me. We did elect a Muslim president twice.


3 posted on 04/17/2016 4:37:53 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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I just see delegates being awarded to the people who lose elections. Or elections being bypassed in favor of handing delegates to “the good guys”.

I think it’s definitely rigged.


4 posted on 04/17/2016 4:38:28 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Harvey Dent -- can he be trusted?)
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To: Kaslin

Yes, the system is rigged.

Not against Trump, specifically. But the system is rigged. The only people who don’t (or pretend to not) recognise it are the hacks who benefit from it.


5 posted on 04/17/2016 4:42:33 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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I think it’s definitely rigged.

Definitely rigged -- in the sense that the Trump campaign doesn't seem to have the foggiest idea how to compete.

6 posted on 04/17/2016 4:43:37 AM PDT by okie01 (The of the Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Cboldt

Absolutely.

Some state parties have completely corrupted the vote.

.0114 - 4% vote participation from caucus states that are tightly controlled.

.0000001 of the population are contributed millions to buy an election.

Wealthy foreigners and global financiers are supporting our candidates.

The press over reports, under reports and redefines the message every day.


7 posted on 04/17/2016 4:45:43 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: okie01

There is a certain amount of irony when it comes to a casino owner running around saying the system is rigged.


8 posted on 04/17/2016 4:51:33 AM PDT by kjam22 (America need forgiveness from God..... even if Donald Trump doesn't)
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To: okie01

There is a certain amount of irony when it comes to a casino owner running around saying the system is rigged.


9 posted on 04/17/2016 4:51:34 AM PDT by kjam22 (America need forgiveness from God..... even if Donald Trump doesn't)
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To: ClearCase_guy
A point which hasn't been made, but which needs to be, is that the entire caucusing/convention/delegate election system is 100% rigged to yield results that the party leadership wants - and that this system is a holdover from the late 19th-early 20th century party boss systems that dominated back in those days.

The whole system is a relic - and one which is only held onto because it benefits the political hacks in power in both parties.

Caucuses exist specifically so that gatherings of political hacks and hangers-on can circumvent the people and choose delegates and candidates instead. The whole reason we even have this "party convention meets to elect the delegates," instead of the candidates selecting the delegates they won themselves, is so the party elite can still control the process, rendering the results of primary elections essentially moot.

10 posted on 04/17/2016 4:52:12 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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To: Cboldt

In an election year where the theme is “replace the status quo” and total disgust with our system it is beyond me how states can either disregard the votes of the people and pledge delagates to another candidate or not even have a primary vote! Not only does it give the appearance of impropriety, its a big F... Y.. to their constituents and rejects the mood of the country’s body politic. I was a Cruz supporter until he embraced the GOPe and adopted a win at all costs attitude. Reminds me of Pete Townsend’s lyric...Meet the new Boss, same as the old Boss.


11 posted on 04/17/2016 4:53:22 AM PDT by vigilence (Vigilence)
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Fraud At Polls!
12 posted on 04/17/2016 4:55:49 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Kaslin

Any time that the popular vote in any entity is negated and overridden by special rules the system is RIGGED. No exception.

Today’s politics is clear example of what the voters want verses what they will get. Rigged elections have ensured total corruption within all levels of government.


13 posted on 04/17/2016 4:56:49 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

The system is not what it should be, but that is a problem that republicans should demand the state parties fix after November. In fact, Trump can make that demand and apply a huge amount of pressure if he wins in November.

However, it’s how candidates play the system that decides elections. If Trump had set a rather mild goal of 1,000 supporters spread over the Wyoming Caucuses, he could have swept the state. I don’t mind a lot that Cruz did it with the 644 supporters who showed up, since that limited Kasich to one delegate, but I would have preferred to see Trump make the effort to beat both rivals at that game.

I blame Trump for not playing the game under the rules he knows and for not doing his very best. Or does anyone believe Trump really could not have gathered more than 70 total supporters in that state?


14 posted on 04/17/2016 5:00:22 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: DH
Exactly. The Cruzers and GOP-E hacks try to focus the question specifically on "Is the system rigged against Trump" so that they can just guffaw and snicker and chalk it up to Trump "not having a ground game" and "Trumpsters are too dumb to understand how the system works" and all that.

It's a distraction away from the fact that the system is endemically rigged to transfer authority away from the voters themselves and to a small group of party leaders and their hacks. It's essentially a state party version of what liberals have been doing vis-a-vis the states vs. the FedGov for a century.

15 posted on 04/17/2016 5:00:29 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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To: Kaslin

trump win the state, but his delegates goes to cruz. Yes its rigged


16 posted on 04/17/2016 5:03:08 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Kaslin

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...


17 posted on 04/17/2016 5:14:17 AM PDT by McGruff (Rush Limbaugh: Jeb Bush could mount a convention comeback)
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To: Kaslin

A better question might be, “Are there rents today?”

I think the answer is yes. Influence is rented... at 200K to 500K per hour (average length of a speech).


18 posted on 04/17/2016 5:14:30 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (The would-be Empress has no clothes. My eyes!)
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To: Kaslin

So many wrong linkages, wrong conclusions.

When the Elites, via many avenues, hold the electorate hostage to their desired outcome, of course the system is rigged, to their benefit.

One avenue of control is disenfranchisement. How is it that two privately owned organizations, the Democrat and Republican parties, hold control over who gets selected and elected for We the People’s public gov’t leadership positions?

That they all train their venom against the one man who has the financial ability to circumvent their choke hold, and expose them for who they are, tells the electorate just who is the only candidate that stands a chance to bust up their “system”.


19 posted on 04/17/2016 5:15:39 AM PDT by Right-wing Librarian
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“so that they can just guffaw and snicker and chalk it up to Trump “not having a ground game” “

And that ground game is almost useless in the general election where voters can vote for either party. In the general election I’d think that Trump has an advantage in that he can motivate lots of voters.

There are no parliamentary maneuvers in the general other than outright voter fraud and endless recounts like Ted Gore tried in the 2000 election


20 posted on 04/17/2016 5:15:58 AM PDT by Fai Mao
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