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Clinton misleads with Vermont gun claim; even supporters say it’s inaccurate
The Washington Times ^ | April 12, 2016 | Ben Wolfgang

Posted on 04/12/2016 11:57:08 AM PDT by jazusamo

Hillary Clinton’s claim that Vermont is a key culprit in New York gun crime is misleading at best, federal data show, and even some of Clinton’s own supporters Tuesday turned on the former first lady and said her argument doesn’t hold water.

Mrs. Clinton made the charge Monday night at a roundtable discussion on gun violence in New York and used it as ammunition in making the case her primary opponent, Sen. Bernard Sanders of Vermont, is far too weak on gun laws.

She cited ATF figures showing that, when adjusting for population, more guns from Vermont were found at New York crime scenes than firearms from any other state.

“Here’s what I want you to know: Most of the guns that are used in crimes and violence and killings in New York come from out of state,” Mrs. Clinton said at the Port Washington forum. “And the state that has the highest per capita number of those guns that end up committing crimes in New York come from Vermont.”

Her argument technically is correct, but the raw numbers tell a much different story.

The ATF data — which traces the source states of firearms recovered and seized by authorities in New York — show that just 55 Vermont guns were recovered in New York in 2014, making Vermont the 14th highest offender nationwide.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2ndamendment; banglist; clinton; hillary; hillary2016; liar; newyork; vermont; vt2016
Hillary can't help but lie, just like 0bama.
1 posted on 04/12/2016 11:57:08 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

She was trying to implicate Sanders.
Leftist MO: say something emotional, move on to the next point while opponents tie themselves in knots trying to denounce the objective errors when the intended audience didn’t care about detailed accuracy. Her mistake this time was using the technique on a fellow Leftist.


2 posted on 04/12/2016 12:12:50 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ("Get the he11 out of my way!" - John Galt)
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To: jazusamo
I spent a lot of time in Vermont until the commies took over in the 70’s. You could buy a howitzer no questions asked at the local gun store, have a few roaders on the way home, no problem, no open bottle law.

If you screwed up and abused this they put you away for a long time.

3 posted on 04/12/2016 12:15:50 PM PDT by Little Bill (o)
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To: jazusamo

Sanders is closing the gap in NY and just might defeat Hillary in the NY primary. If that happens she will begin to panic and her vile, nasty nature will be put on full display. She will do and say whatever it will take to destroy Sanders. It will be a spectacle that ought not be lost on the America electorate. They will get a glimpse of the real nature of the corrupt, inherently dishonest, mean woman of no real accomplishment that they are being asked to elect as their President. In a perfect world it would sink her, but in an America that elected and reelected Obama, alas, it may not matter.


4 posted on 04/12/2016 12:18:27 PM PDT by allendale
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To: jazusamo

Lying Can’t Understand Normal Thinking biatch.


5 posted on 04/12/2016 12:19:53 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: jazusamo

Clinton misleads with Vermont gun claim; even supporters say it’s inaccurate

"Feh! Amateur! And she's a lawyer?"


6 posted on 04/12/2016 12:20:31 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (The GOPe deserve nothing more than a middle finger)
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To: Little Bill; ctdonath2

I think it’s hilarious that the Rat Gov. Shumlin and a supporter of hers is upset with her.


7 posted on 04/12/2016 12:21:19 PM PDT by jazusamo (Have YOU Donated to Free Republic? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: allendale

If Hillary ends up losing this second bid for the WH she’ll be mad enough to chew nails, it’ll be a beautiful sight.


8 posted on 04/12/2016 12:25:15 PM PDT by jazusamo (Have YOU Donated to Free Republic? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: jazusamo; Daffynition
To: McGruff

hillarity running fast and loose with the facts. Again. LOL

https://www.atf.gov/about/docs/report/new-york-firearms-trace-data-%E2%80%93-2014/download

16 posted on 4/11/2016, 6:30:35 PM by Daffynition ("We have the fight of our lives coming up to save our nation!" ~ Jim Robinson)

Only 12 other states beat VT so HillBilly was close. /s

9 posted on 04/12/2016 12:25:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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Please bump the Freepathon or click above to donate or become a monthly donor!

10 posted on 04/12/2016 12:29:25 PM PDT by jazusamo (Have YOU Donated to Free Republic? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: TigersEye

Great map. :)


11 posted on 04/12/2016 12:30:59 PM PDT by jazusamo (Have YOU Donated to Free Republic? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: jazusamo
That map is like a big sign that says

Hillary is a liar!

;-) lol

12 posted on 04/12/2016 12:35:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: jazusamo

Hillary knows she can get away with any crime or any lie.


13 posted on 04/12/2016 12:55:53 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: jazusamo

If it so easy to get a gun in VT why isn’t their murder rate like NY’s


14 posted on 04/12/2016 1:06:14 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: COBOL2Java

Nice shot of Dean Wormer!
“No way to go through life”, TED.


15 posted on 04/12/2016 1:15:57 PM PDT by GOYAKLA ( Pick-up the pace, I'm eighty!)
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To: jazusamo

I just hope she offs herself!


16 posted on 04/12/2016 1:44:35 PM PDT by vette6387 (Obama can go to hell!)
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To: jazusamo
“And the state that has the highest per capita number of those guns that end up committing crimes in New York come from Vermont.” Kinda sounds like the guns don't need people to kill people. Apparently in New York guns can commit crime on their own. No wonder the crime rate is so high.
17 posted on 04/12/2016 1:58:41 PM PDT by prof.h.mandingo
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To: jazusamo
If she ever spoke the truth... she would melt!!!
18 posted on 04/12/2016 1:59:37 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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If she ever spoke the truth... she would melt!!!
19 posted on 04/12/2016 1:59:38 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: jazusamo

I was unaware that an INANIMATE OBJECT like a wrench, a hammer, or a gun could could even go out and commit a crime; regardless of which state it came from.


20 posted on 04/12/2016 3:40:52 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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