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What Happens If Trump Is Defeated?
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | April 11, 2016 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 04/11/2016 3:53:02 PM PDT by Kaslin

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RUSH: All right, look. It really doesn't matter whether I think Cruz is cheating or not. Some of you do, and that's as far as it goes. You don't... But I'm gonna try to explain this to you because I think it is very important that everybody understand this. Now, I just said closing out the previous hour something, apparently, very provocative. My e-mail is blowing up. I'm thinking ahead down the road. I'm asking myself, what happens here if the establishment succeeds in beating Trump? For this discussion, it doesn't matter whether they do it legitimately or quote/unquote "cheat."

At the end of this, if Trump doesn't get the nomination after all of this, then what's next? Now, Pat Buchanan has written that he thinks it doesn't really matter because Trump has ignited a new nationalistic populist movement which will not be denied, and that if they don't get there this year, this movement now has found out how powerful it is and how many people are in it; that in certain polling senses they are a majority. A number of people oppose immigration, want a wall, and have trade deal opposition. So Buchanan says that...

And, by the way, he's not hoping for this. But if Trump doesn't get the nomination, he says that that doesn't matter because this group of people, the Trumpists -- the people supporting Trump. Buchanan believes they're actually supporting more than Trump. They are supporting a set of ideas and principles that will survive Trump. And that a new movement has been born, that the genie's out of the bottle, that the establishment will not be able to put back in the bottle.

Doug Schoen, who's a Democrat pollster and strategist who also appears on the evil and dreaded Fox News Channel where he does analysis -- usually sitting next to, I think, Monica Crowley or whoever they put him with, just to balance it out. You know, "fair and balanced," you decide. Doug has a piece here. (chuckles) Oh, look! It's at Fox News. And the headline: "Donald Trump Saw What Politicians Ignored. And Then he Disrupted American Politics." And his theme is this.

"In future elections, we may not have someone as outlandish as Trump. But his legacy will surely have paved the way for leaders who may not know anything about governing, but know a lot about how people are feeling." I gather from this... Here the headline: "Donald Trump Saw What Politicians Ignored. And Then he Disrupted American Politics." He quite correctly notes the genuine depth of anger that a majority of Americans feel, and he thinks -- I guess along the line with Buchanan -- that a new movement has begun here.

I don't deny that. I mean, I don't deny that the people who think what they think are gonna stop thinking it, and I don't doubt that there's a lot of them. But my only point is this. This is how serious it is. If the establishment succeeds or if Ted Cruz -- and those are two different entities, by the way. Ted Cruz is not the establishment right now. So you've got two entities working against Trump. You got Cruz from the campaign angle; you've got the establishment from their own angle. If either or both succeed in stopping Trump, where does this movement go?

I have no doubt they might abandon the Republican Party. But my instincts tell me that... What's the objective here? If you're a Trumpist, what's the objective? After winning, besides winning, what's the objective? It's to abolish this insider club, right? It's to abolish the establishment. It's to get rid of it once and for all, realizing you're only gonna be able to do that on the Republican side. (chuckling) The Democrats are not gonna let anybody come in and kick them out of it -- and I don't think the Republicans are, either.

But let's say that that's the ultimate objective is to just get rid of this club, is to get rid of all of this insider stuff, all the favoritism, all the back scratching, all the cronyism, all the unfairness, you know, all the greasing skids for everybody's kids so all they have to do is grow up and they're automatic successes and all this is. Get rid of it, blow it up, and turn it back over to a merit based. I'm here to tell you that if the establishment beats back this effort, nobody's gonna come along and take it away from 'em again. (interruption)

Why are you shaking your head in there? (interruption) You doubt my premise? (interruption) Well, my only point here is that the objective is to... If the problem is perceived to be the establishment, which it is, and Trump is the vehicle for victory overwhelming, overcoming the establishment, what happens if Trump doesn't win? The establishment holds on. If Trump doesn't win, no matter what. If the Trumpists represent one half of the voters of the Republican Party, and then if every one of them stops voting Republican, that is not gonna end the Republican establishment.

And, furthermore, the Republican establishment won't care. That's the problem. They won't care. As long as they hold on to their fiefdom, as long as there is a Republican Party, and as long as the people who run it continue to run it, then beating back this latest insurgency, they will consider to be a victory. Not whether they win the White House or not. Their first order of business right now is to beat back the insurgency, the rabble-rousers, the peasants with the pitchforks.

That's their first objective right now. And if they have to roll up their sleeves and work with Ted Cruz for a couple of months to do it, they'll do it. But then Cruz is gonna be their next target. (interruption) Don't doubt me. (interruption) Don't shake your heads in there. Don't doubt me on this. These are people hanging on for dear life. These are people in a car that has gone over the cliff; it's sinking to the bottom of the lake. They're struggling to get the windows open and swim out of that car, and they're gonna do everything they can to live.

They're not gonna allow Trump to push that car over the cliff with the doors and windows locked, or Cruz, for that matter. So my only point is this: If Trump, as a candidate, ends up being defeated, and if he doesn't get to 1,237, do you see him winning on a second or third ballot, given what you've seen happen this weekend? Well, some people don't, but even though you've gotta realize something. If everybody's out there buying delegates, don't forget Trump has Mar-a-Lago.

I mean, if you're gonna wine and dine delegates, Trump's got Trump Force One. I mean, Trump's... There you go once again: Insulting delegates, thinking they can be bought off with... (interruption) Well, can I give you some names? (chuckling) No, folks, I'm just kidding. Look, the anti-establishment movement is real. It's a lot of people. But if it doesn't succeed in making great, great inroads in the establishment this time around, it's gonna be a long time before it happens again. The establishment's gonna be well girded, well protected -- and this is for keeps. That's why...

I'm sorry. All of this is precisely why the focus on Hillary and Obama and the Democrats hasbeen lost, because right now people are in a life-and-death struggle over their identity, their self-worth and any number of other things.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016gopprimary; cba123; cruztolose; defiant; dragonblustar; gaijin; gope; gopelimbaugh; heights; libfreeusa; losewithcruz; morekaslintds; tds; trumpstershavingfits; vandekoik
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To: VanDeKoik

No...we vote Trump Independent and win!


101 posted on 04/11/2016 5:47:48 PM PDT by gr8eman (Don't waste your energy trying to understand commies. Use it to defeat them!)
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To: heights

If Trump goes 3rd Party, I go with him.

The GOP doesn’t need the front runner?

The GOP doesn’t need the guy who is bringing in new voters?

The GOP doesn’t need divisive speech like “building a wall”?

The GOP apparently doesn’t need the types of voters that would vote for Trump,

Which means the GOP doesn’t need me.


102 posted on 04/11/2016 5:53:26 PM PDT by Bubba Gump Shrimp (#NeverTrump = #AlwaysHillary!)
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To: Kaslin
"What Happens If Trump Is Defeated?"

The war to restore constitutional government should not end with the election. I think this might be easier with a Republican president than a democrat.
103 posted on 04/11/2016 6:09:17 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Kaslin
Before Trump entered the race, I had given up on our political parties and our nation's survival.

After watching him for a bit, for me, Trump brought hope for real change back to real world integrity.

Watching the various greater and lesser evils come together and coalesce against Trump has been quite an education into the powers that be and why things are as they are and not as we grew up believing.

If we end up with Hillary and Bernie or with Ted and Marco sitting on the knee of the GOPe, it will be a fitting end for a once good idea gone bad.

104 posted on 04/11/2016 6:20:49 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Kaslin

The establishment certainly beat the tea party by running their own “tea party” candidates. I believe that’s what they’re doing with Cruz. Rush is wrong when he says the establishment and Cruz are two different entities.

Another point where Rush is wrong is if half the people leave the party it will still exist. How can it?


105 posted on 04/11/2016 6:21:13 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Cruz voters: Wake up! Trump is our only chance of stopping the gopE. If not now, never!)
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To: VanDeKoik; vette6387; Liz; flat; unkus; ZULU; Doogle; Foolsgold

I will write in Trump’s name!


106 posted on 04/11/2016 6:21:22 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: gaijin

Perot’s number one obsession was finding MIAs. He hated Bush, McCain and Kerry. That was good.


107 posted on 04/11/2016 6:23:55 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Cruz voters: Wake up! Trump is our only chance of stopping the gopE. If not now, never!)
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To: GOPJ

Are they “conservative elites” if they support voter disenfranchisement? The RNC rules do not reflect conservatism at all. A vote cast for American Idol has more influence than this primary farce.


108 posted on 04/11/2016 6:33:55 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: erkelly

No, they nominate at their convention in May and it can’t be a candidate running in another party’s presidential primary. To get ballot access in all 50 states would be extremely difficult.


109 posted on 04/11/2016 6:35:20 PM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: cba123

Exactly


110 posted on 04/11/2016 6:36:32 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

“At this point the main difference between Trump and Cruz is that one will lose this summer and the other will lose in November. #Nevercruz vs #nevertrump. Ha!”

Gee, we have a happy Democrat among us now.


111 posted on 04/11/2016 6:40:25 PM PDT by CatDancer (Praise the Lord and Vote Trump!)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

The day Cruz wins the nomination, the Canadian drum beat begins in the MSM.

By the time November comes, our candidate is fried crispy Canadian bacon.


112 posted on 04/11/2016 6:42:59 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: CatDancer

Ive been called worse so go.eff yourself. I was willing to vote for mr goldman sachs if he won honestly bit now ill be writing in trump if he gets screwed. Let hillary win for all i give a rat sack.


113 posted on 04/11/2016 6:50:10 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Trump vs Cruz - One loses in the summer, the other goes down in the fall.)
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To: Kaslin

Screw you Rush. You lost me for good. Your boy Cruz is the establishment that has been destroying America. You have no excuse for being a traitor to the real conservative rebuilding from what we have now. Go play in your playpen and just shut up.


114 posted on 04/11/2016 6:57:36 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Logical me

Ive been Rush free for a couple of weeks and feel much better for it.


115 posted on 04/11/2016 7:06:58 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Trump vs Cruz - One loses in the summer, the other goes down in the fall.)
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To: Kaslin
What Happens If Trump Is Defeated?

By Whom?

116 posted on 04/11/2016 7:28:13 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin

...they're actually supporting more than Trump.

BINGO!!


117 posted on 04/11/2016 7:29:28 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: apillar
Trump isn't just going to shrug and walk away quietly, it's not his nature.

Mess with the bull; ya get the horn.

118 posted on 04/11/2016 7:31:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: AC Beach Patrol
I’ll write in Trump and never, ever, vote for a Republican again.

What ever happened to the Whigs?

The Republicans took over from them...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whig_Party_(United_States)

119 posted on 04/11/2016 7:34:24 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RetSignman

“Then the GOPe AND the liberal candidate nominee will come after” ... anyone in their way. We know this.


120 posted on 04/11/2016 7:54:08 PM PDT by enduserindy (Republican's have sold the path, not lost it.)
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