Posted on 03/24/2016 9:05:35 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
The first nationstate warfare took place between soldiers on the ground, and then ships at sea. In the 20th Century, the battles moved into the skies. On Thursday, the Justice Department claimed Iran had attacked U.S. infrastructure online, by infiltrating the computerized controls of a small dam 25 miles north of New York City, heralding a new way of war on American soil.
“We can tell the world that hackers affiliated with the Iranian government attacked U.S. systems, and we seek to bring them to justice for their crimes,” Assistant Attorney General John P. Carlin said, unveiling charges against seven Iranians for cyber attacks. The hackers, members of the Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, also targeted several financial institutions, the New York Stock Exchange and AT&T with barrages of incoming emails designed to slow or shut down some of their computers, according to the indictment.
(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...
Hey, Obama. Give them another $2 billion in side money, and maybe they’ll go after the Hoover Dam!
You nincompoop!
Iran: You are the Great Satan.
Obama: Ok, ok, I know that's your rhetoric and you don't mean it.
Iran: America must die.
Obama: Yes, of course we'll die at some point in the future but right now I let you guys off the hook. You can build nuclear weapons and ICBMs and while you're at it, pleeeeeese, stop with the hacking, ok?
Iran: What an imbecile...
It’s not the future of war. It’s the present. Stuxnet and other types of operations show that.
Its a miracle these evil doers haven’t changed their targets that much.
America - Land that educates and enables its enemies on taxpayer dollars.
So the headline references the “Future of War”, and yet the article talks about “bringing [the hackers] to justice”? Hackers who by the article’s direct admission are not just affiliated with the government the way some Chinese hacker cells are, but actual members of the Iranian military?
I’m pretty sure having foreign military forces conduct an attack against an item of one’s nation’s infrastructure like this rises above what the US Code considers “domestic terrorism”, as defined:
(5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that—
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.
I have to wonder where Iran’s military can be “brought to justice”, and how?
” “We can tell the world that hackers affiliated with the Iranian government attacked U.S. systems, and we seek to bring them to justice for their crimes,” Assistant Attorney General John P. Carlin said, unveiling charges against seven Iranians for cyber attacks.”
No, the way you handle this is for there to be an unexplained explosion at an Iranian dam somewhere that brings the whole thing down. Simultaneously, we feed worms into the Iranian military and intelligence nets, causing as much damage as possible. If they complain, “Well, bad things happen. We didn’t do anything, it must be hackers that messed up your systems, and maybe somebody over there in your own country doesn’t like your oppressive regime.” They do anything in retaliation, then you hit them 10 times harder - destroy several air bases, wipe out their intelligence HQ, sink half of their navy in 1/2 hour.
It is WAY past time to stop playing tiddlywinks with these lunatics.
Expalin to me why agents of the Iranian government attempting to damage American infrastructure is not an act of war. This seems like a different response than when pilots associated with the Japanese Navy attacked US systems in 1941.
We ought to actually destroy 10 of their dams as retribution.
Only when countries understand not to F*** with America will they stop F***ing with America.
Iran: OK imbecile here’s a smple of our work.
Lobbing nuclear weapons at us is just wrong.
Iran: OK here’s another.
Imbecile: We can absorb anything you care to throw at us. Would you accept my apologies if I asked everyone nicely to convert?
Iran: Only if you let us do the conversions ... here’s one more we found lying about ...
America not only enables , it supports and finances its enemies !
and under this administration, turns her back on her most ardent allies.
Uh, it’s not terrorism, it’s an AC of war. We’d be completely justified bombing the shit out of them...
AC= act...
I don’t believe there is actually any US legal prohibition of targeting foreign leaders. A sovereign nation would make it clear that attacking their interests, certainly on their own soil, would result in emergency regime change on the part of the attackers.
We need to give them another 150 Billion so they can do it again.
Attacks paid for by American citizens via Barack Obama...
For those who want to learn more about ICS SCADA vulnerabilities and security hardening, the following paper is a good place to start.
Note, it is often impossible to completely protect industrial control sysyems via “air gap” isolation from external network connectivity due to the need for outside / offsite vendor system administration accounts used to monitor and maintain server OS and devices within the plant facility network.
http://www.cse.wustl.edu/~jain/cse571-11/ftp/ics/
“We can tell the world that hackers affiliated with the Iranian government attacked U.S. systems, and we seek to bring them to justice for their crimes,”........
Right after they return that $150,000,000, IN CASH!
Why is a dam or water system connected to the internet? All infrastructure systems should not be connected to the internet. If they’re not connected, then they can’t be attacked.
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